[hackerspaces] Out with the "hackers"... In with the, "makers" and the "fixers"

[Matt Joyce]

I think you would all be amazed just how much of the "hacker" community is
actually in some way related to the US federal government.  I mean, they
don't call it fedcon for nothing.

Hacker has as much a negative connotation as a positive one.  I mean heck
they have Mudge doing DARPA outreach to "hackerspaces" specifically.

There are some positive connotations to the term even today.

-Matt

On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 1:46 PM, Mars brown <itcamefrommars at gmail.com>wrote:

> I think of make magazine and instructables when I hear "makerspace"...
> as in it could be HSpace type of activity or anything else like
> woodworking, welding, muraling, macrame, as well as technogobbleDgoop.
>
> Personally - I'd be more interested in a makerspace if it encompassed such
> a general span of things...
> but for me it's not just the word.  I like to tinker, hack, build, make,
> design, etc in many mediums.
> I'd want a dedicated HSpace around too though.
>
> I think that the idea of a 'space that isn't ONLY tech is fantastic... but
> needs the tech part in it.
> I'd love to see and share skills, techniques, and ideas from many
> different avenues of creativity!
>
> We all have alot of skills we can share/teach/help each other -
> Perhaps some HSpaces should be a Hack|Make|space and call it a day.
>
> But if it's about keeping out non tech related people to not do a
> makerspace - well the pre desegregation days are calling.
> And if it's about being afraid of being singled out as a menace to
> society... then the McCarthy era calls...
> Poor Oppenheimer.
>
> Anyhow... not to bicker... but the two names ring slightly different
> versions of very similar creative/collaborative spaces to me... and I think
> both either together or separate is a no brainer fantastic idea!
>
> Hack on!  Make on!
> And have fun!
>
>
>
> On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 3:05 PM, Matt Goodman <meawoppl at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Makerspace hasn't even made threshold on Google trends<http://www.google.com/trends?q=hackerspace%2C+makerspace>yet.
>>
>> Sure language is important, but perhaps we can start a separate list for
>> people still interested in these semantics?
>>
>> In general I feel like it is an argument that results from not having
>> something more interesting going on. . .
>>
>> just me $0.02
>> --Matthew Goodman
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>> On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 10:00 PM, Psy Tek <psytek at alphaonelabs.com>wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> http://www.googlefight.com/index.php?lang=en_GB&word1=hackerspace&word2=makerspace
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 12:57 AM, Al Jigen Billings <
>>> albill at openbuddha.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 11/28/11 9:37 PM, discuss-request at lists.**hackerspaces.org<discuss-request at lists.hackerspaces.org>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> You miss the point entirely.  Makerspaces (aka, "hackerspaces") are
>>>>> good things with tremendous potential for educating people.
>>>>>
>>>>> By using the term "hacker" you drive people away without ever getting
>>>>> a chance at recruiting them.  All over a word.  Is that what you want?
>>>>>
>>>> Actually, we're all doing fine. Thanks for your concern. We're quite
>>>> happy with how it is. Feel free to stop.
>>>>
>>>> What hackerspace are you actually a member of?
>>>>
>>>> Al
>>>> http://www.acemonstertoys.org
>>>>
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