[hackerspaces] status of this list

[Matt Joyce]

Simplicity is great.  I don't disagree.  And if "Be excellent to each other"
was enough I wouldn't have brought this up as an issue.  I think we need
something more, and the past few days are the evidence I would submit of
that.  This is a new list and it's important to set the proper tone early
on.  We don't need valuable members of the hackerspace community dropping
off of the list in frustration.

-Matt

On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 7:04 PM, webmind <webmind at puscii.nl> wrote:

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> Not sure where exactly the best place to reply is in this thread, so I
> take the new base.
>
> I do not agree with the assumption that a discussion need to be a formal
> discourse. I do not think you need a formal framework for having
> discussions, offline or online.
> I certainly don't think that you need  a specific moderator on a list.
>
> If communication really is or becomes a problem, I can understand
> forming rules, as this can help with/against misunderstandings and
> communication errors. Something that is IMHO very likely to happen with
> such diverse groups. But I don't think we need any kind of central
> moderation for this.
>
> And by rules I indeed think more about preventing aggression in
> communication (from plain flaming to ridiculing), I think that is pretty
> much in line with the examples that Matt gave (excuse me if I'm wrong).
> But if someone doesn't or just can't follow the rules, I think you're or
> we should be able to solve it as a group. By commenting on the issue at
> hand if required. Yes, this has the risk of turning in a huge thread
> discussing how's and why's but anyone is completely free to ignore those
> threads. I do think they are useful, and we have a public archive to
> point to if it gets repetitive.
>
> Long mail short:
> I do think this is a discussion list, just maybe not everyone's type of
> 'discussion.
> I do not oppose rules, but I am against central moderation/control.
> I think non-aggressive and open-minded communication is non-trivial
> I think people are quite capable to decide what they want to read/follow
> or not.
>
> Oh, and I don't think we should make any set of rules to complex, I like
> simplicity.
>
> my 2cts.
>
> webmind.
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