[hackerspaces] status of this list

[Paul Böhm]

> We agree on a list of rulese to abide by.

can you give specific examples, or even draft such a full proposal?
i have a hard time thinking about this while it is so vague!

paul

On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 1:26 PM, Matt Joyce <mdjoyce at gmail.com> wrote:
> It's not the topic of discussion that's a problem it's the method of
> discussion.  THUS the call for a form of moderation.  One form is to kill
> trouble topics.  I am not a fan of that approach but it is a method of
> moderation.  Another method of moderation is the enforcement of discussion
> etiquette.  Or netiquette.  Or debate / discussion rules.  Or "be excellent
> to each other" rules.
>
> We agree on a list of rulese to abide by.  Then we moderate people who
> violate the rules and admit their emails on a case by case basis until such
> time as they stop with the violation of those rules of etiquette.
>
> Does that make sense?
>
> On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 4:20 PM, Paul Böhm <paul at boehm.org> wrote:
>>
>> Ok, so what should we discuss on this list other than what has been
>> discussed?
>> Specifically?
>>
>> Also how would you moderate a list without an impartial moderator?
>>
>> On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 1:09 PM, Matt Joyce <mdjoyce at gmail.com> wrote:
>> > Paul,
>> >
>> >    Failure to protect discussion on this list is in no way a solution to
>> > the
>> > problem at hand.  You are in effect choosing to forsake discussion on
>> > the
>> > discussion list entirely in favor of something else ( Re Ad hominem
>> > attacks,
>> > Fallacy, and other "Childish Bullshit").  I would like you to take your
>> > other thing elsewhere and free up the discussion list for actual
>> > discussion.  Calling this list "Discussion" in light of a complete break
>> > from the commonly held definitions of discussion is deceptive.  And
>> > inviting
>> > people to hold discussions anywhere but the discussion list is absurd.
>> >
>> > Warmest regards,
>> >
>> >    Matt Joyce
>> >
>> > On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 4:00 PM, Paul Böhm <paul at boehm.org> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> hello from your friendly list creator,
>> >>
>> >> at the moment the meta-discussion mails about moderation/killing the
>> >> thread/etc. have exceeded the mails about the actual subject roughly
>> >> by a factor of two.
>> >>
>> >> killing off discussions you don't like solves the problem for you, but
>> >> does not help others who feel the need to discuss certain subjects.
>> >> there's a backlash because of that.
>> >> hopefully the discussion will wind down after a bit, but we still
>> >> won't all agree at that point.
>> >>
>> >> however, seeing that we're different from each other is valuable all by
>> >> itself.
>> >>
>> >> in any case, this list won't become moderated since we won't be able
>> >> to find an impartial moderator.
>> >> if you want your own list on hackerspaces.org, we'd be very happy to
>> >> create one for you.
>> >>
>> >> paul
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