[hackerspaces] status of this list

[Matt Joyce]

It's not the topic of discussion that's a problem it's the method of
discussion.  THUS the call for a form of moderation.  One form is to kill
trouble topics.  I am not a fan of that approach but it is a method of
moderation.  Another method of moderation is the enforcement of discussion
etiquette.  Or netiquette.  Or debate / discussion rules.  Or "be excellent
to each other" rules.

We agree on a list of rulese to abide by.  Then we moderate people who
violate the rules and admit their emails on a case by case basis until such
time as they stop with the violation of those rules of etiquette.

Does that make sense?

On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 4:20 PM, Paul Böhm <paul at boehm.org> wrote:

> Ok, so what should we discuss on this list other than what has been
> discussed?
> Specifically?
>
> Also how would you moderate a list without an impartial moderator?
>
> On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 1:09 PM, Matt Joyce <mdjoyce at gmail.com> wrote:
> > Paul,
> >
> >    Failure to protect discussion on this list is in no way a solution to
> the
> > problem at hand.  You are in effect choosing to forsake discussion on the
> > discussion list entirely in favor of something else ( Re Ad hominem
> attacks,
> > Fallacy, and other "Childish Bullshit").  I would like you to take your
> > other thing elsewhere and free up the discussion list for actual
> > discussion.  Calling this list "Discussion" in light of a complete break
> > from the commonly held definitions of discussion is deceptive.  And
> inviting
> > people to hold discussions anywhere but the discussion list is absurd.
> >
> > Warmest regards,
> >
> >    Matt Joyce
> >
> > On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 4:00 PM, Paul Böhm <paul at boehm.org> wrote:
> >>
> >> hello from your friendly list creator,
> >>
> >> at the moment the meta-discussion mails about moderation/killing the
> >> thread/etc. have exceeded the mails about the actual subject roughly
> >> by a factor of two.
> >>
> >> killing off discussions you don't like solves the problem for you, but
> >> does not help others who feel the need to discuss certain subjects.
> >> there's a backlash because of that.
> >> hopefully the discussion will wind down after a bit, but we still
> >> won't all agree at that point.
> >>
> >> however, seeing that we're different from each other is valuable all by
> >> itself.
> >>
> >> in any case, this list won't become moderated since we won't be able
> >> to find an impartial moderator.
> >> if you want your own list on hackerspaces.org, we'd be very happy to
> >> create one for you.
> >>
> >> paul
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