[Finance] Fwd: Startup Costs

Brain Tank thebraintank at gmail.com
Fri Oct 29 19:15:57 CEST 2010


http://www.readwriteweb.com/archives/four_tools_for_crowd_sourced_funding.php


http://www.quirky.com/


http://www.ponoko.com/


There's one more I can't find. It was a really awesome site for this. When I
do I'll post it.


-David Johnson


On Fri, Oct 29, 2010 at 12:43 PM, Braintank <thebraintank at gmail.com> wrote:

> Good song isn't it?  ;-)
>
> Thank you I didn't want to play that game on this list. Bad form and all
> that.
>
> Back to the task at hand.
> I've found several sites for social financing/funding similar to
> kickstarter. I'll drop them on this list once I get off my phone.
>
> One model involves submitting a widget to a website where people pledge to
> buy it. If enough people pledge then the project is funded. I really think
> that could help alot of peoples designs get made without having to save up
> the cash to do so first.
>
> Anyone find any similar sites?
>
> -David Johnson
>
> www.TheBrainTank.net
>
> 401-267-TANK (8265)
>
> On Oct 29, 2010, at 12:31 PM, SkyDog <skydog at hackerconsortium.com> wrote:
>
> Great. Now I'm singing Johnny Mercer/Bing Crosby... "Accentuate the
> positives...Eliminate the negatives..."
>
> Yes, I agree that we could waste a lot of time arguing the merits of the
> for-profit/non-profit deal, and we could really get into a fight about
> taking monies that could help to feed families, etc. That's just one step
> away from talking politics, and I don't debate politics via mailing lists. I
> do it the manly way, over an alcoholic beverage, and with a smile on my
> face. Let's face it, there are merits and faults to all of the different
> systems, and they don't always fit the curve based on where they are
> located, the members that are there, and the talent that they bring. The end
> result is that we have started, or are starting these spaces to give
> like-minded people a place to share, and to pass on skillz to those that
> want to learn. Let's not lose sight of that please.  I didn't start mine to
> make a profit, and I damn sure didn't start it to get rid of my paycheck. I
> started it to spend time with my friends, make new ones, and create some
> cool toys/applications/etc. That's what I'll do until it's time NOT to do it
> anymore. :)
>
> -Sky
>
> On 10/29/2010 11:04 AM, Brain Tank wrote:
>
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Brain Tank <thebraintank at gmail.com>
> Date: Fri, Oct 29, 2010 at 12:04 PM
> Subject: Re: [Finance] Startup Costs
> To: "Christopher J. Pilkington" <cjp at 0x1.net>
>
>
> Dodge, parry, thrust.
>
>  You made your point toward the negatives. I made mine using your logic.
> Let's get back to innovating and accentuating the positives shall we?
>
>  -David Johnson
>
>  On Fri, Oct 29, 2010 at 11:22 AM, Christopher J. Pilkington <cjp at 0x1.net>wrote:
>
>> On Fri, Oct 29, 2010 at 11:02:58AM -0400, Brain Tank wrote:
>> > If this works we've even gone a step further, WE HAVE NOT TAKEN MONEY
>> AWAY FROM
>> > NON-PROFITS. We are generating new income instead while doing non-profit
>> type
>> > things for the community. Tinkering is good but whatever money a
>> Hackerspace
>> > gets donated to them for a tool or event could just as easily have gone
>> to help
>> > people feed their families.
>>
>>  This is fearmongering. You're making the false assumption that
>> donations to a non-profit hackerspace are reallocations of
>> donations to other non-profits.
>>
>> Furthermore, I'd argue that if I get members of the community
>> interested in technology, and learning the basics through the
>> classes we offer, I'm putting them in a better position to be
>> employable (if not in the short term, in the long term), which
>> does indeed help people feed their families.
>>
>> Again, I brought up the difference between a hackerspace and a
>> for-profit technology workshop because the economics are quite
>> different, and this list is centered on the finances of
>> hackerspaces.  I did not mean to start a holy war on the merits
>> of hackerspaces vs. for-profit workshops.
>>
>> -cjp
>> sig315.org
>>
>
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