[sudoroom] [sudo-discuss] A thought for a collaborative hacking enterprise: drone net

Tue Jan 8 21:48:49 CET 2013

Just learned you can guy drones at Barnes and Nobles btw. They have then
behind the counter in Emeryville
http://www.barnesandnoble.com/p/toys-games-parrot-ardrone-20-quadricopter-blue/24151641

On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at 11:11 AM, Adam Stiles <adam.d.stiles at gmail.com>wrote:

> Sorry if this was explained already, but what are the legal constraints on
> operating unmanned aerial vehicles within city limits? Or is this just a
> "toy" and therefore not yet illegalized? If it became common, the long-term
> business model is far from certain.
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> On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at 10:51 AM, Aaron Juchau <aaronjuchau at gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> So this just came to my attention.  http://tacocopter.com/
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Jan 4, 2013 at 10:39 PM, Ryan Bethencourt <
>> ryan.bethencourt at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I'd be interested :}. One idea I really like is the idea of having a
>>> solar powered blimp so with minimal energy and build costs we could have a
>>> persistent drone in the air
>>>  On Jan 4, 2013 10:25 PM, "Andrew" <andrew at roshambomedia.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> We discussed this a bit at sudo room tonight. I think the major problem
>>>> that we should solve is how to keep the drones in the air. Jae and I were
>>>> talking about creating charging stations for quadcopters. I think that if
>>>> we solved this issue the rest will fall in to place. The charging stations
>>>> could just be contact plates that the drones could locate and dock with.
>>>>
>>>> Anyone interested in working on a project like that?
>>>>
>>>> --Andrew
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Jan 4, 2013 at 8:35 PM, Patrik D'haeseleer <patrikd at gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> It would be really useful to have an open source gunfire locator
>>>>> system, similar to the ShotSpotter system Oakland is currently paying lots
>>>>> of bucks for:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.nytimes.com/2012/05/29/us/shots-heard-pinpointed-and-argued-over.html
>>>>>
>>>>> ShotSpotter is using microphones across the city to instantaneously
>>>>> locate where in the city a gunshot came from. Microphones on aerial drones
>>>>> would pose much less of a privacy issue - they only have to be sensitive
>>>>> enough that any gunshot is picked up by at least three drones - and you
>>>>> could send a camera to the site of any gunshot within minutes.
>>>>>
>>>>> Patrik
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, Jan 4, 2013 at 3:03 PM, Ryan Bethencourt <
>>>>> ryan.bethencourt at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I love the idea of drones, how about a drone surveillance network for
>>>>>> downtown Oakland? It could be a safety thing with criss crossing coverage
>>>>>> of a fairly small radius and maybe payed for by local companies, businesses
>>>>>> and residents? No payload but you could potentially see charging a monthly
>>>>>> fee for a panic button on a mobile phone that would launch a drone to your
>>>>>> co-ordinates to observe, record and interact in a potentially dangerous
>>>>>> situation or an ongoing crime which could be streamed out to the web or
>>>>>> emergency responders? It might actually have an effect on crime,
>>>>>> particularly if an operator could boom out from the drone in response to a
>>>>>> robbery or something like that?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Very 1984 but it could be useful in increasing local safety and might
>>>>>> have a sustainable business model!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Fri, Jan 4, 2013 at 12:11 PM, Jehan Tremback <
>>>>>> jehan.tremback at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> We should try to come up with convenient labels that contain both a
>>>>>>> qr code and a sufficient amount of magnetic metal to be used as a secure
>>>>>>> carrying attachment point. These could then be attached to plastic bags.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Fri, Jan 4, 2013 at 12:10 PM, Jehan Tremback <
>>>>>>> jehan.tremback at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Unfortunately there is probably some liability to a building owner
>>>>>>>> whose roof is being used a charging and relay point for the drones. They
>>>>>>>> would probably need some sort of license or card for their property to be
>>>>>>>> used as a transfer point for the product.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The solution to this is to separate charging and relay stations.
>>>>>>>> Drones pass product off on another convenient rooftop near the charging
>>>>>>>> station. They then charge at the actual station, holding no merchandise at
>>>>>>>> all.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Fri, Jan 4, 2013 at 12:05 PM, Jae Kwon <jkwon.work at gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> gears, frames, rotors, yes.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Jan 3, 2013, at 11:16 PM, Aaron Juchau <aaronjuchau at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Could the 3D printer print workable rotors, frames, gears, etc?
>>>>>>>>> Sudocopter?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 8:13 PM, Jae Kwon <jkwon.work at gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> While noting that all emails get saved somewhere in a bunker for
>>>>>>>>>> use against us, I want to mention that light, valuable pharmaceutical
>>>>>>>>>> delivered by drones in the bay area sound interesting.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Jan 3, 2013, at 8:05 PM, Jehan Tremback <
>>>>>>>>>> jehan.tremback at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> ah pharmaceuticals... that's ideal. The challenge is to find
>>>>>>>>>> other light, valuable things. Small electronic parts for example.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 3:30 PM, Anthony Di Franco <
>>>>>>>>>> di.franco at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I don't know if anyone has publicly looked at that
>>>>>>>>>>> comprehensively, but about a year ago a startup called matternet was
>>>>>>>>>>> assuming about a kilogram of payload, about 30 minuted of flight time at
>>>>>>>>>>> some I guess lowish speed and looking at transporting pharmaceuticals in
>>>>>>>>>>> places without roads such as interior Africa: low weight, high value,
>>>>>>>>>>> timeliness matters a lot. That would seem to be about the ballpark in which
>>>>>>>>>>> one would be playing.
>>>>>>>>>>> Imagine.
>>>>>>>>>>> On Jan 3, 2013 2:07 PM, "Jehan Tremback" <
>>>>>>>>>>> jehan.tremback at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> What could it be used for? How much weight can a drone carry?
>>>>>>>>>>>> Let's stick to current technologies, as the development of such key
>>>>>>>>>>>> components as batteries, motors, and materials is unlikely to be affected
>>>>>>>>>>>> much by the development of this network (unlike the internet, where demand
>>>>>>>>>>>> quickly caused a lot of innovation in networking equipment).
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 1:42 PM, Anthony Di Franco <
>>>>>>>>>>>> di.franco at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://globalguerrillas.typepad.com/globalguerrillas/2013/01/dronenet-the-next-big-thing.html
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> (I'm a bit interested in the routing problem myself.)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> "A short distance drone delivery service built on an open
>>>>>>>>>>>>> protocol.  Think short haul logistics.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> "It's a system that will explode in a way that is very similar
>>>>>>>>>>>>> to the way the Internet grew up -- where connections were bought by
>>>>>>>>>>>>> individuals and installed one modem and IP address at a time, and where the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> early providers are local geeks with shelves full of modems and an
>>>>>>>>>>>>> expensive T-1 lines.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> "It's an approach that uses "uncontrolled airspace" and
>>>>>>>>>>>>> incremental purchases of cheap, standards compliant pads/drones to roll
>>>>>>>>>>>>> itself out (very similar to the way the Internet was able to piggy back on
>>>>>>>>>>>>> the old telephone system).
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> "As a result of this open approach and decentralization, it's
>>>>>>>>>>>>> something that could grow VERY fast."
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>
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>>>>>> ryan.bethencourt at gmail.com
>>>>>>
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