[sudoroom] [sudo-discuss] A thought for a collaborative hacking enterprise: drone net

Aaron Juchau aaronjuchau at gmail.com
Tue Jan 8 19:51:10 CET 2013


So this just came to my attention.  http://tacocopter.com/

On Fri, Jan 4, 2013 at 10:39 PM, Ryan Bethencourt <
ryan.bethencourt at gmail.com> wrote:

> I'd be interested :}. One idea I really like is the idea of having a solar
> powered blimp so with minimal energy and build costs we could have a
> persistent drone in the air
>  On Jan 4, 2013 10:25 PM, "Andrew" <andrew at roshambomedia.com> wrote:
>
>> We discussed this a bit at sudo room tonight. I think the major problem
>> that we should solve is how to keep the drones in the air. Jae and I were
>> talking about creating charging stations for quadcopters. I think that if
>> we solved this issue the rest will fall in to place. The charging stations
>> could just be contact plates that the drones could locate and dock with.
>>
>> Anyone interested in working on a project like that?
>>
>> --Andrew
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Jan 4, 2013 at 8:35 PM, Patrik D'haeseleer <patrikd at gmail.com>wrote:
>>
>>> It would be really useful to have an open source gunfire locator system,
>>> similar to the ShotSpotter system Oakland is currently paying lots of bucks
>>> for:
>>>
>>>
>>> http://www.nytimes.com/2012/05/29/us/shots-heard-pinpointed-and-argued-over.html
>>>
>>> ShotSpotter is using microphones across the city to instantaneously
>>> locate where in the city a gunshot came from. Microphones on aerial drones
>>> would pose much less of a privacy issue - they only have to be sensitive
>>> enough that any gunshot is picked up by at least three drones - and you
>>> could send a camera to the site of any gunshot within minutes.
>>>
>>> Patrik
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Jan 4, 2013 at 3:03 PM, Ryan Bethencourt <
>>> ryan.bethencourt at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I love the idea of drones, how about a drone surveillance network for
>>>> downtown Oakland? It could be a safety thing with criss crossing coverage
>>>> of a fairly small radius and maybe payed for by local companies, businesses
>>>> and residents? No payload but you could potentially see charging a monthly
>>>> fee for a panic button on a mobile phone that would launch a drone to your
>>>> co-ordinates to observe, record and interact in a potentially dangerous
>>>> situation or an ongoing crime which could be streamed out to the web or
>>>> emergency responders? It might actually have an effect on crime,
>>>> particularly if an operator could boom out from the drone in response to a
>>>> robbery or something like that?
>>>>
>>>> Very 1984 but it could be useful in increasing local safety and might
>>>> have a sustainable business model!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Jan 4, 2013 at 12:11 PM, Jehan Tremback <
>>>> jehan.tremback at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> We should try to come up with convenient labels that contain both a qr
>>>>> code and a sufficient amount of magnetic metal to be used as a secure
>>>>> carrying attachment point. These could then be attached to plastic bags.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, Jan 4, 2013 at 12:10 PM, Jehan Tremback <
>>>>> jehan.tremback at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Unfortunately there is probably some liability to a building owner
>>>>>> whose roof is being used a charging and relay point for the drones. They
>>>>>> would probably need some sort of license or card for their property to be
>>>>>> used as a transfer point for the product.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The solution to this is to separate charging and relay stations.
>>>>>> Drones pass product off on another convenient rooftop near the charging
>>>>>> station. They then charge at the actual station, holding no merchandise at
>>>>>> all.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Fri, Jan 4, 2013 at 12:05 PM, Jae Kwon <jkwon.work at gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> gears, frames, rotors, yes.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Jan 3, 2013, at 11:16 PM, Aaron Juchau <aaronjuchau at gmail.com>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Could the 3D printer print workable rotors, frames, gears, etc?
>>>>>>> Sudocopter?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 8:13 PM, Jae Kwon <jkwon.work at gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> While noting that all emails get saved somewhere in a bunker for
>>>>>>>> use against us, I want to mention that light, valuable pharmaceutical
>>>>>>>> delivered by drones in the bay area sound interesting.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Jan 3, 2013, at 8:05 PM, Jehan Tremback <
>>>>>>>> jehan.tremback at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ah pharmaceuticals... that's ideal. The challenge is to find other
>>>>>>>> light, valuable things. Small electronic parts for example.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 3:30 PM, Anthony Di Franco <
>>>>>>>> di.franco at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I don't know if anyone has publicly looked at that
>>>>>>>>> comprehensively, but about a year ago a startup called matternet was
>>>>>>>>> assuming about a kilogram of payload, about 30 minuted of flight time at
>>>>>>>>> some I guess lowish speed and looking at transporting pharmaceuticals in
>>>>>>>>> places without roads such as interior Africa: low weight, high value,
>>>>>>>>> timeliness matters a lot. That would seem to be about the ballpark in which
>>>>>>>>> one would be playing.
>>>>>>>>> Imagine.
>>>>>>>>> On Jan 3, 2013 2:07 PM, "Jehan Tremback" <jehan.tremback at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> What could it be used for? How much weight can a drone carry?
>>>>>>>>>> Let's stick to current technologies, as the development of such key
>>>>>>>>>> components as batteries, motors, and materials is unlikely to be affected
>>>>>>>>>> much by the development of this network (unlike the internet, where demand
>>>>>>>>>> quickly caused a lot of innovation in networking equipment).
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 1:42 PM, Anthony Di Franco <
>>>>>>>>>> di.franco at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> http://globalguerrillas.typepad.com/globalguerrillas/2013/01/dronenet-the-next-big-thing.html
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> (I'm a bit interested in the routing problem myself.)
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> "A short distance drone delivery service built on an open
>>>>>>>>>>> protocol.  Think short haul logistics.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> "It's a system that will explode in a way that is very similar
>>>>>>>>>>> to the way the Internet grew up -- where connections were bought by
>>>>>>>>>>> individuals and installed one modem and IP address at a time, and where the
>>>>>>>>>>> early providers are local geeks with shelves full of modems and an
>>>>>>>>>>> expensive T-1 lines.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> "It's an approach that uses "uncontrolled airspace" and
>>>>>>>>>>> incremental purchases of cheap, standards compliant pads/drones to roll
>>>>>>>>>>> itself out (very similar to the way the Internet was able to piggy back on
>>>>>>>>>>> the old telephone system).
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> "As a result of this open approach and decentralization, it's
>>>>>>>>>>> something that could grow VERY fast."
>>>>>>>>>>>
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