[sudoroom] [sudo-discuss] A thought for a collaborative hacking enterprise: drone net

Sat Jan 5 01:33:23 CET 2013

Doesn't seem that Ryan specified who would be surveilled. Presumably, upon
being hailed, the drone would videotape whoever was there, whether cop or
civilian.

On Fri, Jan 4, 2013 at 4:28 PM, Susan Werner <heinousbutch at gmail.com> wrote:

> If you want to prevent violence with drone surveillance, I must insist
> that you
> start by surveilling the police.
>
> --
> Susan
>
> On Jan 04 15:03, Ryan Bethencourt <ryan.bethencourt at gmail.com> wrote:
> > I love the idea of drones, how about a drone surveillance network for
> > downtown Oakland? It could be a safety thing with criss crossing coverage
> > of a fairly small radius and maybe payed for by local companies,
> businesses
> > and residents? No payload but you could potentially see charging a
> monthly
> > fee for a panic button on a mobile phone that would launch a drone to
> your
> > co-ordinates to observe, record and interact in a potentially dangerous
> > situation or an ongoing crime which could be streamed out to the web or
> > emergency responders? It might actually have an effect on crime,
> > particularly if an operator could boom out from the drone in response to
> a
> > robbery or something like that?
> >
> > Very 1984 but it could be useful in increasing local safety and might
> have
> > a sustainable business model!
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Jan 4, 2013 at 12:11 PM, Jehan Tremback <
> jehan.tremback at gmail.com>wrote:
> >
> > > We should try to come up with convenient labels that contain both a qr
> > > code and a sufficient amount of magnetic metal to be used as a secure
> > > carrying attachment point. These could then be attached to plastic
> bags.
> > >
> > >
> > > On Fri, Jan 4, 2013 at 12:10 PM, Jehan Tremback <
> jehan.tremback at gmail.com>wrote:
> > >
> > >> Unfortunately there is probably some liability to a building owner
> whose
> > >> roof is being used a charging and relay point for the drones. They
> would
> > >> probably need some sort of license or card for their property to be
> used as
> > >> a transfer point for the product.
> > >>
> > >> The solution to this is to separate charging and relay stations.
> Drones
> > >> pass product off on another convenient rooftop near the charging
> station.
> > >> They then charge at the actual station, holding no merchandise at all.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> On Fri, Jan 4, 2013 at 12:05 PM, Jae Kwon <jkwon.work at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> gears, frames, rotors, yes.
> > >>>
> > >>> On Jan 3, 2013, at 11:16 PM, Aaron Juchau <aaronjuchau at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>> Could the 3D printer print workable rotors, frames, gears, etc?
> > >>> Sudocopter?
> > >>>
> > >>> On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 8:13 PM, Jae Kwon <jkwon.work at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>>> While noting that all emails get saved somewhere in a bunker for use
> > >>>> against us, I want to mention that light, valuable pharmaceutical
> delivered
> > >>>> by drones in the bay area sound interesting.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> On Jan 3, 2013, at 8:05 PM, Jehan Tremback <
> jehan.tremback at gmail.com>
> > >>>> wrote:
> > >>>>
> > >>>> ah pharmaceuticals... that's ideal. The challenge is to find other
> > >>>> light, valuable things. Small electronic parts for example.
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>> On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 3:30 PM, Anthony Di Franco <
> di.franco at gmail.com>wrote:
> > >>>>
> > >>>>> I don't know if anyone has publicly looked at that comprehensively,
> > >>>>> but about a year ago a startup called matternet was assuming about
> a
> > >>>>> kilogram of payload, about 30 minuted of flight time at some I
> guess lowish
> > >>>>> speed and looking at transporting pharmaceuticals in places
> without roads
> > >>>>> such as interior Africa: low weight, high value, timeliness
> matters a lot.
> > >>>>> That would seem to be about the ballpark in which one would be
> playing.
> > >>>>> Imagine.
> > >>>>> On Jan 3, 2013 2:07 PM, "Jehan Tremback" <jehan.tremback at gmail.com
> >
> > >>>>> wrote:
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>> What could it be used for? How much weight can a drone carry?
> Let's
> > >>>>>> stick to current technologies, as the development of such key
> components as
> > >>>>>> batteries, motors, and materials is unlikely to be affected much
> by the
> > >>>>>> development of this network (unlike the internet, where demand
> quickly
> > >>>>>> caused a lot of innovation in networking equipment).
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 1:42 PM, Anthony Di Franco <
> > >>>>>> di.franco at gmail.com> wrote:
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>
> http://globalguerrillas.typepad.com/globalguerrillas/2013/01/dronenet-the-next-big-thing.html
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> (I'm a bit interested in the routing problem myself.)
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> "A short distance drone delivery service built on an open
> protocol.
> > >>>>>>> Think short haul logistics.
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> "It's a system that will explode in a way that is very similar to
> > >>>>>>> the way the Internet grew up -- where connections were bought by
> > >>>>>>> individuals and installed one modem and IP address at a time,
> and where the
> > >>>>>>> early providers are local geeks with shelves full of modems and
> an
> > >>>>>>> expensive T-1 lines.
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> "It's an approach that uses "uncontrolled airspace" and
> incremental
> > >>>>>>> purchases of cheap, standards compliant pads/drones to roll
> itself out
> > >>>>>>> (very similar to the way the Internet was able to piggy back on
> the old
> > >>>>>>> telephone system).
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> "As a result of this open approach and decentralization, it's
> > >>>>>>> something that could grow VERY fast."
> > >>>>>>>
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