<div dir="ltr">Doesn't seem that Ryan specified who would be surveilled. Presumably, upon being hailed, the drone would videotape whoever was there, whether cop or civilian.</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">
On Fri, Jan 4, 2013 at 4:28 PM, Susan Werner <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:heinousbutch@gmail.com" target="_blank">heinousbutch@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
If you want to prevent violence with drone surveillance, I must insist that you<br>
start by surveilling the police.<br>
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Susan<br>
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On Jan 04 15:03, Ryan Bethencourt <<a href="mailto:ryan.bethencourt@gmail.com">ryan.bethencourt@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
> I love the idea of drones, how about a drone surveillance network for<br>
> downtown Oakland? It could be a safety thing with criss crossing coverage<br>
> of a fairly small radius and maybe payed for by local companies, businesses<br>
> and residents? No payload but you could potentially see charging a monthly<br>
> fee for a panic button on a mobile phone that would launch a drone to your<br>
> co-ordinates to observe, record and interact in a potentially dangerous<br>
> situation or an ongoing crime which could be streamed out to the web or<br>
> emergency responders? It might actually have an effect on crime,<br>
> particularly if an operator could boom out from the drone in response to a<br>
> robbery or something like that?<br>
><br>
> Very 1984 but it could be useful in increasing local safety and might have<br>
> a sustainable business model!<br>
><br>
><br>
> On Fri, Jan 4, 2013 at 12:11 PM, Jehan Tremback <<a href="mailto:jehan.tremback@gmail.com">jehan.tremback@gmail.com</a>>wrote:<br>
><br>
> > We should try to come up with convenient labels that contain both a qr<br>
> > code and a sufficient amount of magnetic metal to be used as a secure<br>
> > carrying attachment point. These could then be attached to plastic bags.<br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
> > On Fri, Jan 4, 2013 at 12:10 PM, Jehan Tremback <<a href="mailto:jehan.tremback@gmail.com">jehan.tremback@gmail.com</a>>wrote:<br>
> ><br>
> >> Unfortunately there is probably some liability to a building owner whose<br>
> >> roof is being used a charging and relay point for the drones. They would<br>
> >> probably need some sort of license or card for their property to be used as<br>
> >> a transfer point for the product.<br>
> >><br>
> >> The solution to this is to separate charging and relay stations. Drones<br>
> >> pass product off on another convenient rooftop near the charging station.<br>
> >> They then charge at the actual station, holding no merchandise at all.<br>
> >><br>
> >><br>
> >> On Fri, Jan 4, 2013 at 12:05 PM, Jae Kwon <<a href="mailto:jkwon.work@gmail.com">jkwon.work@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
> >><br>
> >>> gears, frames, rotors, yes.<br>
> >>><br>
> >>> On Jan 3, 2013, at 11:16 PM, Aaron Juchau <<a href="mailto:aaronjuchau@gmail.com">aaronjuchau@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
> >>><br>
> >>> Could the 3D printer print workable rotors, frames, gears, etc?<br>
> >>> Sudocopter?<br>
> >>><br>
> >>> On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 8:13 PM, Jae Kwon <<a href="mailto:jkwon.work@gmail.com">jkwon.work@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
> >>><br>
> >>>> While noting that all emails get saved somewhere in a bunker for use<br>
> >>>> against us, I want to mention that light, valuable pharmaceutical delivered<br>
> >>>> by drones in the bay area sound interesting.<br>
> >>>><br>
> >>>> On Jan 3, 2013, at 8:05 PM, Jehan Tremback <<a href="mailto:jehan.tremback@gmail.com">jehan.tremback@gmail.com</a>><br>
> >>>> wrote:<br>
> >>>><br>
> >>>> ah pharmaceuticals... that's ideal. The challenge is to find other<br>
> >>>> light, valuable things. Small electronic parts for example.<br>
> >>>><br>
> >>>><br>
> >>>> On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 3:30 PM, Anthony Di Franco <<a href="mailto:di.franco@gmail.com">di.franco@gmail.com</a>>wrote:<br>
> >>>><br>
> >>>>> I don't know if anyone has publicly looked at that comprehensively,<br>
> >>>>> but about a year ago a startup called matternet was assuming about a<br>
> >>>>> kilogram of payload, about 30 minuted of flight time at some I guess lowish<br>
> >>>>> speed and looking at transporting pharmaceuticals in places without roads<br>
> >>>>> such as interior Africa: low weight, high value, timeliness matters a lot.<br>
> >>>>> That would seem to be about the ballpark in which one would be playing.<br>
> >>>>> Imagine.<br>
> >>>>> On Jan 3, 2013 2:07 PM, "Jehan Tremback" <<a href="mailto:jehan.tremback@gmail.com">jehan.tremback@gmail.com</a>><br>
> >>>>> wrote:<br>
> >>>>><br>
> >>>>>> What could it be used for? How much weight can a drone carry? Let's<br>
> >>>>>> stick to current technologies, as the development of such key components as<br>
> >>>>>> batteries, motors, and materials is unlikely to be affected much by the<br>
> >>>>>> development of this network (unlike the internet, where demand quickly<br>
> >>>>>> caused a lot of innovation in networking equipment).<br>
> >>>>>><br>
> >>>>>><br>
> >>>>>> On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 1:42 PM, Anthony Di Franco <<br>
> >>>>>> <a href="mailto:di.franco@gmail.com">di.franco@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
> >>>>>><br>
> >>>>>>><br>
> >>>>>>> <a href="http://globalguerrillas.typepad.com/globalguerrillas/2013/01/dronenet-the-next-big-thing.html" target="_blank">http://globalguerrillas.typepad.com/globalguerrillas/2013/01/dronenet-the-next-big-thing.html</a><br>
> >>>>>>><br>
> >>>>>>> (I'm a bit interested in the routing problem myself.)<br>
> >>>>>>><br>
> >>>>>>> "A short distance drone delivery service built on an open protocol.<br>
> >>>>>>> Think short haul logistics.<br>
> >>>>>>><br>
> >>>>>>> "It's a system that will explode in a way that is very similar to<br>
> >>>>>>> the way the Internet grew up -- where connections were bought by<br>
> >>>>>>> individuals and installed one modem and IP address at a time, and where the<br>
> >>>>>>> early providers are local geeks with shelves full of modems and an<br>
> >>>>>>> expensive T-1 lines.<br>
> >>>>>>><br>
> >>>>>>> "It's an approach that uses "uncontrolled airspace" and incremental<br>
> >>>>>>> purchases of cheap, standards compliant pads/drones to roll itself out<br>
> >>>>>>> (very similar to the way the Internet was able to piggy back on the old<br>
> >>>>>>> telephone system).<br>
> >>>>>>><br>
> >>>>>>> "As a result of this open approach and decentralization, it's<br>
> >>>>>>> something that could grow VERY fast."<br>
> >>>>>>><br>
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