[sudoroom] Meeting Minutes Tonight

[Eddie A Tejeda]

Great research Micheal.

I think keeping money in the local economy is definitely a higher priority
than friendly web interface.

--
Eddie A Tejeda


On Thu, May 24, 2012 at 10:34 AM, Michael Scroggins <
michaeljscroggins at gmail.com> wrote:

> WePay is essentially a user friendly front end pasted onto a medium sized
> business bank in Delaware. Their back end is Bancorp (rhymes with Newscorp)
> which specializes in white label banking solutions for their mid-sized
> "affinity partners", of whom WePay is one. That Occupy uses WePay because
> of flexibility and convenience says something about Occupy, but not
> something I find encouraging.
>
> A local credit union is..local. It is possible a Sudo Agent could run for
> and possibly be elected to the board of directors and have real input over
> how money is used and the money is more likely to be reinvested in Oakland,
> and so forth...
>
> My .02c - which I would like to stay in Oakland:)
>
>
>
>
>  ------------------------------
>
>  Matthew Senate <mattsenate at gmail.com>
> Thursday, May 24, 2012 12:13 AM
>
> ** Please Read Voting + Motions at bottom of minutes **
>
> In short, tonight at the meeting we decided that all who are present at
> our weekly meeting are welcome to vote on making non-binding decisions for
> Sudo Room during this interim period, with the requirement to report back
> via email and record these motions on the wiki. This is a great way to move
> forward in this period before we figure out the exact terms of
> decision-making (who, how, etc) which we can now figure out as we actually
> move forward to opening a room.
>
> I'll move this over to the wiki tomorrow, must sleep.
>
> ----
>
> *5/23/2012 - Meeting Minute**s*
>
> *Attendees*: Patrik, Timon, Marina, Phil, Eddie, Victoria, Michael,
> Michel, Angela, Rick, Eddan, Patrick, Matt
>
> *Marginalia:* Space and Time form a curved surface - and our new
> business. *- Nerd Night Bay Area happening near last week of October talk
> to Rick - *
>
> *Old Business*
> 1. Model + Budget + Income investigations (e.g Noisebridge, other) - Jenny
>
>    - (ping via email)
>
> 2. Tax Structure Options: Eddan, Matt, Eddie
>
>    - ** Eddan and Timon (zoning) have done research, neither as Lawyers
>    (see below)
>
> 3. Distilling Decision Maker/Community Options (Matt, Marina, Rachel,
> Jenny, Timon)
>
>    - This is translated into future decision-making options (once we open
>    a space), since we have an interim solution for now
>
> 4. Most transparent process for making decisions
>
>    - This is also touched on below
>
> 5. Determining important deadlines
>
>    - Done, please expect an email to be directed to a space on the wiki
>    for this!
>
> 6. Clean up listing of table of properties
>
>    - Begun, needs more love, more listings, etc.
>
>
> == Break-out Groups ==
> 1. Note-cleaning and -posting
> 2. Notable date / deadline / calendar comprehension (initiated, will be
> posted for editing on wiki)
> *Decisions That Need Deadlines: *
>
>    1. Space. (Before end of June = negotiation w/ EBALC; space would be
>    ~November)
>
>
>    1. Banking Structure (i.e. what to do w/ our donations collected)
>
>
>    1. Interim/ Long-Term  Tax Structure (interim vs permanent) (501c3,
>    fiscal sponsor, LLC, B  Corp)-- how long does it take to apply for each one
>    of these?
>
>
>    1. Membership Structure/ Pricing/ When Begin to Pay
>
>
>    1. Decision Making (once have paying members)
>
>
>    1. Revenue Models
>
> 3. Sudo Room option listings (begun, on wiki)
>
> *New Business*
> + Focus on concrete goals and deadlines
> *====Space and Time====*
> Update from Timon about Zoning
>
>    - @TODO  investigate zoning laws esp in Oakland.  Learned much from
>    oakland city  website "CBD Central Business District Zone Regulations"
>
>
>    -      Eddie suggests that "playing as we go" is not the way to go.
>
> Update from Eddan about Tax Structure
>
>    - @TODO fill out wiki with all options and comparative analysis for
>    both tax structure and organization structure
>
>
>    - Eddan  wants some feedback--but it would be wise to have an
>    environment that   enables different types of innovation funding. Fixing
>    computers,  teaching classes, etc.
>
>
>    - The    diversity here is how you could fund publicly-minded
>    projects. This    could be beneficial, we should consider ways of fostering
>    this.
>
>      Eddan is not acting as a lawyer. Looking at tax structure, ways to
> organize it - 501(c)3. Also have the jobs act and crowdfunding, very new.
> Comparing to different structures of organizations. Wants to ask everyone a
> question:
>
>    1. Become a non-profit?
>
>
>    1. Can't do lobbying (too much), supporting candidates, other
>    reporting requirements. Potential for pigeon-holing.
>
>
>    1. Could be advantages to being forced to foreclose, be
>    transparent--but that can also be a choice to be transparent.
>
>
>    1. Keep going, loosely bound collective, move forward without worrying
>    about other things?
>
>
>    1. Options include all the way to a Super PAC
>
>
>    1. LLC - $900 / year
>
>
>    1. *Pop-up lease opportunity.* Oakollective + Popup Hood are great
>    examples of this.
>
>
> == Voting ==
> The group recognizes that we have critical decisions to make, and everyone
> wants to move forward with making decisions. Further, the group points out
> that we need an interim decision-making process and that this should (and
> will) change once we have a room [the ultimate goal]. It is also recognized
> that we must make a leap of faith in order to begin with interim
> decision-making.
>
> *Motion: In this interim period, non-binding decisions will be voted on
> at Sudo Room meetings by those attending and interested in voting, these
> will then be shared with the email list and recorded on the Wiki.*
> 11 Vote in Favor (2 abstain, for sociological and journalistic reasons
> respectively ;)
>
> *Motion: To aim to find an initial location, a Sudo Room (rather than a
> full-fledged Sudo Space), targeted for the end of July*
> 10 in Favor - One dissenter, Patrik's offers that Techliminal is a
> sufficient platform and that it is not necessary to strive to open another
> space. There are advantages and disadvantages to this position, it is good
> this position is visible for thought and moving forward. (Again 2 abstain
> for obvious reasons).
>
> *Strawpoll (not a vote, just ): Willing to pay on a regular interval for
> Sudo Room as a hackerspace (no discussion of membership, responsibilities,
> benefits, etc.)*
> 10 - One dissenter, Patrick based on the lack of an option to contribute
> without financial payment. A valuable sentiment, and brings up that one
> topic from the last meeting included strategies for allowing folks without
> funds to contribute and participate in the space. This is on our radar as
> we move forward! (2 abstain ' ' ' )
>
> *Motion:* To create an interim solution for storing our current donations
> by (a) using WePay on the condition that it acts just like a bank and won't
> charge us any fees! (WePay is encouraging since its used by Occupy for its
> flexibility.) If this fails to qualify such conditions, then (b) the
> alternative is to have Matt and Eddan sign a Doing-Business-As and sign up
> at a local Credit Union for a free account to store this money. The caveat
> is that this can be changed easily, we can always move money to some other
> bank, or under different names or a corporation, but our current situation
> is non-ideal.
> 10 - (One abstains ' ' ' ) The emphasis behind this motion is to (1) deal
> with the fact that we have donations from our fundraiser in three locations
> and it would be good to consolidate them (2) this makes things more
> transparent for everyone and (3) it allows us to easily start adding more
> income to the coffer at the apporpirate times, and (4) spend money easily
> when that is appropriate.
>
>
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Eddie A Tejeda
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