[sudoroom] Important Note

Wed May 23 09:05:04 CEST 2012

hi everyone,

i agree that this is an excellent point that should be on all of our minds
as we discuss questions about governance, etc. i think ultimately this
reminder points to a larger issue: there are key decisions that need to be
made and they should be made reasonably soon.

at previous meetings we've discussed possibly finalizing within the next
couple weeks key governance issues that would allow us to make decisions
inclusively. matt put together a great list of key decisions on the wiki (
http://hackerspaces.org/wiki/Sudo_room/decisions ) but there's a lot there
and although we've had thorough discussions the last couple meetings, i
wonder if some of these issues might be too big to realistically settle
(while keeping everyone happy with the outcome) within the next two weeks.

i have three questions:

1) how to make the very first decision? so far, a few decisions have been
made (fundraiser, etc.) by doing discussions at meetings, then discussions
over the listserv, then informal consensus by folks at meetings. does this
still work?

2) would setting a deadline for a key decision date be a good idea? this
can help us focus meeting discussions, encourage listserv discussion and
wiki edits, and maximize the number of people who come to a possible key
decision-making meeting. on the other hand, it may prematurely cut off
discussion of important governance issues. on the third hand, key
governance discussions can easily go on for a long time. (if people are
into this idea, possible dates include the week after the consensus
workshop...maybe with a sunday meeting in there to allow for debrief and
meeting with people who aren't able to make wednesdays... or possibly the
week after that)

3) draft agenda for this week's meeting?

- marina

more brain fizz:

if the "discussion at meetings => listserv discussion => meeting consensus"
model is no longer adequate for making one or more key first decisions, we
would have to at least provisionally deal with these meta-questions from
the decisions wiki page:
- who makes decisions
- how decisions are made
- where/when are they made

it's hard for me to see how we can move forward on membership, income, or
the space without having these issues at least provisionally settled. these
are still huge areas for discussion with lots of room for different
perspectives, so keep discussing over the listserv and adding resources to
the wiki (i've really appreciated the resources people have added to the
wiki so far!)

additionally, if helpful, i think that it would be very possible for us to
prioritize key decisions, ie, it may be more important to answer this
question "*Membership.* Do we have it? If so, what are the levels/
benefits/ rules of engagement & expectations?" before this one "*Project
Endorsement.* When does SudoRoom attach its name and "backing" to a
project, if ever?"

On Tue, May 22, 2012 at 10:58 AM, victoria <bogdan.victoria at gmail.com>wrote:

> +1 to that. Thanks, Eddie and Matt!
>
> Last week our weekly group laid out options for membership, governance
> structure, and revenue options (see: wiki<http://hackerspaces.org/wiki/Sudo_room>).
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> At tomorrow night's meeting I hope that we can make some decisions and
> keep moving forward!
>
> *Thoughts on Impending Decisions: *
> 1. Wait until November or find interim space? (by vote?)
> 2. If so, create a space-finding committee?
> 3. Before we have membership fees & a space, how to decide critical/
> foundational issues? (to keep moving forward, ex, majority vote)
>
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> On Mon, May 21, 2012 at 11:26 PM, Matthew Senate <mattsenate at gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> Hey all,
>>
>> I had the pleasure of chatting with Eddie Tejeda on Sunday, and he
>> brought up a substantial point. This concerns the immediate future of Sudo
>> Room.
>>
>> We have a responsibility to our donors, not to perform their individual
>> visions or present some monetary return or service, but to act in good
>> faith of their donations, a manifestation of their support for our general
>> vision.
>>
>> We held a fundraiser, we had an amazing time, converged the community,
>> and (almost mystically) raised our exact goal of $1500. We expanded and
>> have seen more faces now than before our kickoff. The reason it was so
>> successful was because many of us put our energy into it and reached out to
>> our friends, coworkers, organizations, and the public at large who then
>> offered us cash to help us reach closer to our goal of opening a physical
>> location, a real hacker space.
>>
>> This raises a critical question. One of the most tangible opportunities
>> for opening our space is to get working with the EBALC folks and
>> collaborate with Anca at Techliminal to move in to 1825 San Pablo. In an
>> ideal world, with all the best intentions, decisions, and preparation, it
>> is very much possible that by November (techliminal's deadline), this deal
>> may not be ready, or may not work out at all. In that case, we will have
>> postponed a substantive result of our group for quite some time after May.
>> It seems that as a group, which has received much from its community
>> already, and which will inevitably reach out to this community again to
>> support it in times of great change or great need, we cannot afford to wait
>> such a long time before putting forward, constructively, a result that
>> justifies these initial donations.
>>
>> We should definitely remain seriously engaged in the potential to move in
>> to 1825 San Pablo with Techliminal, but we should also consider an interim
>> solution, an initial room.
>>
>> We have cleverly for some time separated our immediate goal of an
>> acceptable room, an initial launchpad, from a longer-term goal of a larger,
>> more configurable space (Sudo Room => Sudo Space). What Eddie pointed out
>> to me is that now more than ever this concept should be heeded, and not
>> only because it is a reasonable, gradual approach to grow into new modes
>> and new responsibilities, but also because as a group entrusted by many
>> already, we should hope to one day convince them yet again to trust us with
>> a small investment (or baba ghanoush or a giant inflated marshmallow man or
>> 24 bottles of homebrew) to go wildly and boldly toward a space and platform
>> for hacking everything, our sudo room.
>>
>> // Matt
>>
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