<div>hi everyone,</div><div><br></div>i agree that this is an excellent point that should be on all of our minds as we discuss questions about governance, etc. i think ultimately this reminder points to a larger issue: there are key decisions that need to be made and they should be made reasonably soon.<div>
<br></div><div>at previous meetings we've discussed possibly finalizing within the next couple weeks key governance issues that would allow us to make decisions inclusively. matt put together a great list of key decisions on the wiki ( <a href="http://hackerspaces.org/wiki/Sudo_room/decisions">http://hackerspaces.org/wiki/Sudo_room/decisions</a> ) but there's a lot there and although we've had thorough discussions the last couple meetings, i wonder if some of these issues might be too big to realistically settle (while keeping everyone happy with the outcome) within the next two weeks.</div>
<div><br></div><div>i have three questions:</div><div><br></div><div>1) how to make the very first decision? so far, a few decisions have been made (fundraiser, etc.) by doing discussions at meetings, then discussions over the listserv, then informal consensus by folks at meetings. does this still work?</div>
<div><br></div><div>2) would setting a deadline for a key decision date be a good idea? this can help us focus meeting discussions, encourage listserv discussion and wiki edits, and maximize the number of people who come to a possible key decision-making meeting. on the other hand, it may prematurely cut off discussion of important governance issues. on the third hand, key governance discussions can easily go on for a long time. (if people are into this idea, possible dates include the week after the consensus workshop...maybe with a sunday meeting in there to allow for debrief and meeting with people who aren't able to make wednesdays... or possibly the week after that)</div>
<div><br></div><div>3) draft agenda for this week's meeting?</div><div><br></div><div>- marina</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>more brain fizz:</div><div><br></div><div>if the "discussion at meetings => listserv discussion => meeting consensus" model is no longer adequate for making one or more key first decisions, we would have to at least provisionally deal with these meta-questions from the decisions wiki page:</div>
<div>- who makes decisions</div><div>- how decisions are made</div><div>- where/when are they made</div><div><br></div><div>it's hard for me to see how we can move forward on membership, income, or the space without having these issues at least provisionally settled. these are still huge areas for discussion with lots of room for different perspectives, so keep discussing over the listserv and adding resources to the wiki (i've really appreciated the resources people have added to the wiki so far!)</div>
<div><br></div><div>additionally, if helpful, i think that it would be very possible for us to prioritize key decisions, ie, it may be more important to answer this question "<b style="font-family:Verdana,sans-serif;font-size:13px;line-height:19px;background-color:rgb(238,238,238)">Membership.</b><span style="font-family:Verdana,sans-serif;font-size:13px;line-height:19px;background-color:rgb(238,238,238)"> Do we have it? If so, what are the levels/ benefits/ rules of engagement & expectations?</span>" before this one "<b style="font-family:Verdana,sans-serif;font-size:13px;line-height:19px;background-color:rgb(238,238,238)">Project Endorsement.</b><span style="font-family:Verdana,sans-serif;font-size:13px;line-height:19px;background-color:rgb(238,238,238)"> When does SudoRoom attach its name and "backing" to a project, if ever?</span>"</div>
<div><br></div><div><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, May 22, 2012 at 10:58 AM, victoria <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:bogdan.victoria@gmail.com" target="_blank">bogdan.victoria@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">+1 to that. Thanks, Eddie and Matt!<br><br>Last week our weekly group laid out options for membership, governance structure, and revenue options (see: <a href="http://hackerspaces.org/wiki/Sudo_room" target="_blank">wiki</a>). <br>
<br>At tomorrow night's meeting I hope that we can make some decisions and keep moving forward! <br>
<br><u>Thoughts on Impending Decisions: </u><br>1. Wait until November or find interim space? (by vote?)<br>2. If so, create a space-finding committee?<br>3. Before we have membership fees & a space, how to decide critical/ foundational issues? (to keep moving forward, ex, majority vote)<br>
<br><br><br><br><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div><div class="h5">On Mon, May 21, 2012 at 11:26 PM, Matthew Senate <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:mattsenate@gmail.com" target="_blank">mattsenate@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
</div></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><div class="h5">
Hey all,<br><br>I had the pleasure of chatting with Eddie Tejeda on Sunday, and he brought up a substantial point. This concerns the immediate future of Sudo Room.<br><br>We have a responsibility to our donors, not to perform their individual visions or present some monetary return or service, but to act in good faith of their donations, a manifestation of their support for our general vision. <br>
<br>We held a fundraiser, we had an amazing time, converged the community,
and (almost mystically) raised our exact goal of $1500. We expanded and
have seen more faces now than before our kickoff. The reason it was so
successful was because many of us put our energy into it and reached out
to our friends, coworkers, organizations, and the public at large who
then offered us cash to help us reach closer to our goal of opening
a physical location, a real hacker space.<br><br>This raises a critical question. One of the most tangible opportunities for opening our space is to get working with the EBALC folks and collaborate with Anca at Techliminal to move in to 1825 San Pablo. In an ideal world, with all the best intentions, decisions, and preparation, it is very much possible that by November (techliminal's deadline), this deal may not be ready, or may not work out at all. In that case, we will have postponed a substantive result of our group for quite some time after May. It seems that as a group, which has received much from its community already, and which will inevitably reach out to this community again to support it in times of great change or great need, we cannot afford to wait such a long time before putting forward, constructively, a result that justifies these initial donations. <br>
<br>We should definitely remain seriously engaged in the potential to move in to 1825 San Pablo with Techliminal, but we should also consider an interim solution, an initial room.<br><br>We have cleverly for some time separated our immediate goal of an acceptable room, an initial launchpad, from a longer-term goal of a larger, more configurable space (Sudo Room => Sudo Space). What Eddie pointed out to me is that now more than ever this concept should be heeded, and not only because it is a reasonable, gradual approach to grow into new modes and new responsibilities, but also because as a group entrusted by many already, we should hope to one day convince them yet again to trust us with a small investment (or baba ghanoush or a giant inflated marshmallow man or 24 bottles of homebrew) to go wildly and boldly toward a space and platform for hacking everything, our sudo room. <br>
<br>// Matt<br>
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