[sudoroom] **CRITICAL** Update for 2135 broadway, Oakland, CA

[Patrik D'haeseleer]

On the other hand - what do we really gain by renting a temporary 150 sq ft
room, that we couldn't get at TechLiminal for free? Place to leave stuff
lying around? Is 150 sq ft even big enough to fit us all?

As long as Anca is happy to host us (and I think having the extra traffic
is probably a good thing for TechLiminal) I don't see a good reason to
spend our small amount of funds on a separate room that we don't truly need
and that would only be a temporary fix anyway. I'd say let's spend some of
that money on Anca, and stay at Techliminal at least until we find
something more permanent..

Also, as soon as we start paying rent on a monthly basis, we need to get
serious about monthly paying memberships as well. But so far we haven't
done much to make people eager to pay for a membership.

Besides, if this guy really has lots of spaces and they come up for rent
often, there really isn't any need to jump on whatever he has available
right now. I'm sure he'll have some other spaces open next month as well.

Patrik

On Fri, Jun 1, 2012 at 4:57 PM, Jenny Ryan <jenny at thepyre.org> wrote:

> Matt, and also Eddan & Timon - thanks for moving on this! I think this
> could be a fantastic initial space for Sudo Room..
>
> Location is great, though 150 square feet is absurdly small. How big is
> the classroom we could use?
>
> Overpriced for the size, imho, but the visibility we could definitely work
> wrt outreach for the group... though with the rest of the building's
> amenities available to us, might be a good bet.
>
> Would love to meet on Saturday, though would have to be early afternoon
> for me to make it (send-off party for our yurt builder & current resident,
> Morten, in our garden on Saturday starting around 4! email me if you'd like
> to come :)
>
> Jenny
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> "Storytelling reveals meaning without committing the error of defining it."
>  -Hannah Arendt
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> "To define is to kill. To suggest is to create."
> -Stéphane Mallarmé
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> On Fri, Jun 1, 2012 at 3:24 PM, Eddie A Tejeda <eddie.tejeda at gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> Matt.. thanks for leading this. I think this is a great opportunity. If I
>> understand this correctly, there are multiple spaces available and we can
>> start with one and move into other ones as needed? If that's the case I
>> think it makes perfect sense to start with the smaller space and grow as
>> needed.
>>
>> I also this it's a cool location. When do you need to make the decision
>> by?
>>
>> --
>> Eddie A Tejeda
>>
>> On Thu, May 31, 2012 at 11:48 PM, Matthew Senate <mattsenate at gmail.com>wrote:
>>
>>> Howdy Folks,
>>>
>>> We've been in search of a space. There are lots of options, and bigger,
>>> brighter futures rest on the horizon.
>>>
>>> On Weds, Eddan found this listing on craigslist:
>>> http://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/off/3036298243.html seen here:
>>> https://maps.google.com/?q=loc:+Broadway+at+22nd+Street+Oakland+CA+US&ll=37.810827,-122.26721&spn=0.003458,0.005284&hnear=Broadway+%26+22nd+St,+Oakland,+Alameda,+California+94612&t=h&z=18&layer=c&cbll=37.810651,-122267318&panoid=VXpIKY0QFTgDutXU5EfIag&cbp=12,284.7,,0,11.24<https://mapsgoogle.com/?q=loc:+Broadway+at+22nd+Street+Oakland+CA+US&ll=37.810827,-122.26721&spn=0.003458,0.005284&hnear=Broadway+%26+22nd+St,+Oakland,+Alameda,+California+94612&t=h&z=18&layer=c&cbll=37.810651,-122.267318&panoid=VXpIKY0QFTgDutXU5EfIag&cbp=12,284.7,,0,11.24>
>>>
>>>
>>> I gave George, the property manager, a call. I had seen some other
>>> offices in his space months before, he has lots of spaces and they come up
>>> for rent often. All month-to-month contracts, and a lease if we really want
>>> one He said he was available today at 3pm. I showed up and Eddan and Timon
>>> joined in.
>>>
>>>
>>> We saw three offices. I have photographs stored on a proprietary memory
>>> device and will retrieve them ASAP upon apprehension of the proper cable.
>>>
>>> 1. $500 / month 350 sq ft - The LISTED ROOM - has WiFi access, on the
>>> ground floor, outlets, lights. It is a good deal for the size, but it is
>>> not very close to the street. One must walk through a hallway, through a
>>> half-office, and down another hallway (all disability accessible) to get to
>>> it. This is not bad, just a bit removed from public view.
>>>
>>> 2. $400 / month (no exact measure, but about 150 sq. ft). - The BOX
>>> OFFICE (calling it that for short). Has a window, is just a few feet inside
>>> public-facing  street-level doors in the same area as the LISTED ROOM. Also
>>> has WiFi Access. Sits directly outside a shared building "classroom" area
>>> available to all renters, just sign up ahead of time. If we rent the BOX
>>> OFFICE, we can occasionally use the LISTED ROOM while it's open
>>>
>>> 3. $350 / month (no exact measure, but no bigger than 400 sq ft) - The
>>> DOUBLE OFFICE is upstairs, at the very top of the entrance steps. It has
>>> access to an unused, common "reception" area that would be available for
>>> our usage. It has cable and wifi internet access. The DOUBLE OFFICE
>>> includes two offices that are connected, side-by-side. The rear door has
>>>
>>> All rooms have access to the "classroom" area on the ground floor, just
>>> need to sign up as described above. The building just got faster WIFI
>>> service provided by Sonic.net installed recently. George is interested in
>>> providing line-access to internet in all ground floor offices in the
>>> future, we could also do this ourselves he offered.
>>>
>>> Also, we can potentially rent multiple of these spaces, or move from one
>>> to other available spaces in the building at a later time.
>>>
>>> In order to move forward with this space (and not to lose footing), I
>>> have a proposal:
>>>
>>> *Sudo Room should consider "dipping" it's toe into the BOX OFFICE space
>>> (no. 2 above) by investing a portion of our fund-raiser funds of $200 first
>>> month (50% off for move-in), $400 obligatory for last month (which can be
>>> july if we wish), and a redeemable $400 deposit--at a grand total of
>>> $1,000, lasting to at least July*. This would only commit us to two
>>> months in the space, the first month of which (June) we can sort out all
>>> the precise governance, tax, and income issues, by consensus, in order to
>>> move forward (remain, expand, or move) with this space and our future!
>>>
>>> I propose we hold a discussion on this email thread, use our other
>>> online tools, convene an in-person meetup on Saturday (anywhere that's
>>> available), consider all the issues and list them on the wiki, convene
>>> briefly again on Sunday with whoever can make the "scout session" (still
>>> on), and plan to move forward on Monday having begun due diligence to
>>> consider if we have the blessings of our community!
>>>
>>> Please add notes in reply to this thread, on this pad (for anonymous
>>> communication too): https://pad.riseup.net/p/sudoroom and ultimately
>>> we'll put everything on the Wiki on Saturday to sort out by Monday.
>>>
>>> On clarifying note: it seems to me that it would be prudent to maintain
>>> the Sunday "scouting" event for due diligence reasons, and for future
>>> option reasons!
>>>
>>> // Matt
>>>
>>> p.s. Note that time is crucial because other folks (including some we
>>> bumped into while on tour) are also looking at these spaces, and with the
>>> first of the month approaching, it is in the property manager's best
>>> interest to move folks in soon.
>>>
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>>
>> --
>> Eddie A Tejeda
>>
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