[sudoroom] Sudoroom open!

[Jehan Tremback]

What is a member?
On Dec 14, 2012 7:14 PM, "David Rorex" <drorex at gmail.com> wrote:

> Is Timon a member? If yes, maybe you could have given him a key and had
> him lock up later? If not a member, then it was definitely within your
> rights to ask him to leave.
>
> Though, if there's one person left in the space, would have been much more
> polite to talk to him directly instead of announcing to the air and then
> turning off the lights. (My apologies if that's not what happened, but
> that's what the email makes it sound like)
>
> Also, living in the space is not prohibited by the compact, just "strongly
> discouraged". If people want to actually prohibit it (which I highly
> recommend, unless you do actually want part of sudoroom's function to be a
> temporary living space), should update that wording.
>
>
> On Fri, Dec 14, 2012 at 12:35 PM, Jenny Ryan <jenny at thepyre.org> wrote:
>
>> All,
>>
>> Last night around 2am I was in the space with Andrew and Timon. As the
>> only person left with keys, I announced that I was locking up the space and
>> that it was time to leave. Timon was in the sound studio/radio room and
>> continued to whistle and sing while I repeated several times that I was
>> closing down the space. Finally I turned off the lights, and Timon
>> approached me rather aggressively, stating repeatedly that he was not
>> leaving.
>>
>> I have very reasonable boundaries when it comes to aggression and violent
>> behavior. I felt threatened and left the space stating that I was going to
>> call the police. Luckily it didn't come to that, and Timon left the
>> building after ten minutes or so.
>>
>> At no point did Timon inform me that he had been locked out of his
>> apartment and needed a place to stay for the night. Regardless, sudo room
>> is not a hostel, as explicitly defined in our Compact, and last night's
>> incident is the second time I have felt unsafe in Timon's presence.
>>
>> We as a community have committed ourselves to creating a safe space. I am
>> also concerned for Timon and will dedicate some time to providing
>> informational resources re: nearby shelter and humanitarian support. I have
>> also already spoken with George (the landlord) about this incident. He was
>> very understanding and supportive and has said he will speak to Timon.
>>
>> Thanks to all who have reached out. Sudo Room is overwhelmingly composed
>> of wonderful people.
>>
>> Jenny
>> On Dec 14, 2012 9:34 AM, "Eddan Katz" <eddan at eddan.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Timon -
>>>
>>> Didn't see these messages until just now this morning. Did you make it
>>> through the night OK?
>>> It would be really useful to figure out how to be helpful to you if you
>>> can let us know what's going on.
>>>
>>> As for the dispute resolution concern, it seems to me that it is
>>> actually working as intended. You have a complaint, you've raised it on the
>>> list, and now it has been put on the agenda for next week's meeting. How
>>> far we go into trying to solve this dispute is somewhat in your control at
>>> this point. I'd rather not go too far down that road, with people making
>>> accusations against each other.
>>>
>>> It seems like the best thing to do may be for you to suggest ways in
>>> which we could figure out as a community how to help you out, if you choose
>>> to stay in the community. It is a lot more difficult responding to urgent
>>> calls for help in the middle of the night, as I tried to respond to your
>>> earlier email. I have no idea what happened last night, but I can imagine
>>> the situation might have been complicated by the fact that there is mention
>>> of Sudo Room as a space for habitation in the Compact.
>>>
>>> sent from eddan.com
>>>
>>> On Dec 14, 2012, at 3:03 AM, timondocent at gmail.com wrote:
>>>
>>> Someone who has Bern abusively abrupt (to be polite) to me before and to
>>> another in my sight has now consigned me to the 47degF streets at 2:30am,
>>> and will now become the person who causes my creation of a rival space,
>>> with true transparent dispute resolution.
>>>  Duck that. I will not be shat on. If I "join" sudoroom it will be only
>>> as an addition to sudo space or spaces where everyone who can stay civil
>>> and kind is welcome, and whence I launch our As Yet To Be Named Academy
>>> Eddan wouldn't accept my money before bankaccount day, so please calculate
>>> my past due dues, and let me know.
>>>
>>>
>>> Sent from my HTC One™ S on T-Mobile, two companies now forever to be
>>> infamous for opt-out piggyback-vector viral marketing.
>>>
>>> ----- Reply message -----
>>> From: "Marina Kukso" <marina.kukso at gmail.com>
>>> To: "Sudoroom" <sudoroom at lists.hackerspaces.org>
>>> Subject: [sudoroom] Sudoroom open!
>>> Date: Tue, Dec 11, 2012 6:11 PM
>>>
>>>
>>> sudo room is open
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>  On Dec 8, 2012 10:12 AM, "Marina Kukso" <marina.kukso at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi everyone, sudo room is open and coffee is brewing. :)
>>>>>>>
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