[sudoroom] Sudoroom open!

[David Rorex]

Is Timon a member? If yes, maybe you could have given him a key and had him
lock up later? If not a member, then it was definitely within your rights
to ask him to leave.

Though, if there's one person left in the space, would have been much more
polite to talk to him directly instead of announcing to the air and then
turning off the lights. (My apologies if that's not what happened, but
that's what the email makes it sound like)

Also, living in the space is not prohibited by the compact, just "strongly
discouraged". If people want to actually prohibit it (which I highly
recommend, unless you do actually want part of sudoroom's function to be a
temporary living space), should update that wording.


On Fri, Dec 14, 2012 at 12:35 PM, Jenny Ryan <jenny at thepyre.org> wrote:

> All,
>
> Last night around 2am I was in the space with Andrew and Timon. As the
> only person left with keys, I announced that I was locking up the space and
> that it was time to leave. Timon was in the sound studio/radio room and
> continued to whistle and sing while I repeated several times that I was
> closing down the space. Finally I turned off the lights, and Timon
> approached me rather aggressively, stating repeatedly that he was not
> leaving.
>
> I have very reasonable boundaries when it comes to aggression and violent
> behavior. I felt threatened and left the space stating that I was going to
> call the police. Luckily it didn't come to that, and Timon left the
> building after ten minutes or so.
>
> At no point did Timon inform me that he had been locked out of his
> apartment and needed a place to stay for the night. Regardless, sudo room
> is not a hostel, as explicitly defined in our Compact, and last night's
> incident is the second time I have felt unsafe in Timon's presence.
>
> We as a community have committed ourselves to creating a safe space. I am
> also concerned for Timon and will dedicate some time to providing
> informational resources re: nearby shelter and humanitarian support. I have
> also already spoken with George (the landlord) about this incident. He was
> very understanding and supportive and has said he will speak to Timon.
>
> Thanks to all who have reached out. Sudo Room is overwhelmingly composed
> of wonderful people.
>
> Jenny
> On Dec 14, 2012 9:34 AM, "Eddan Katz" <eddan at eddan.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi Timon -
>>
>> Didn't see these messages until just now this morning. Did you make it
>> through the night OK?
>> It would be really useful to figure out how to be helpful to you if you
>> can let us know what's going on.
>>
>> As for the dispute resolution concern, it seems to me that it is actually
>> working as intended. You have a complaint, you've raised it on the list,
>> and now it has been put on the agenda for next week's meeting. How far we
>> go into trying to solve this dispute is somewhat in your control at this
>> point. I'd rather not go too far down that road, with people making
>> accusations against each other.
>>
>> It seems like the best thing to do may be for you to suggest ways in
>> which we could figure out as a community how to help you out, if you choose
>> to stay in the community. It is a lot more difficult responding to urgent
>> calls for help in the middle of the night, as I tried to respond to your
>> earlier email. I have no idea what happened last night, but I can imagine
>> the situation might have been complicated by the fact that there is mention
>> of Sudo Room as a space for habitation in the Compact.
>>
>> sent from eddan.com
>>
>> On Dec 14, 2012, at 3:03 AM, timondocent at gmail.com wrote:
>>
>> Someone who has Bern abusively abrupt (to be polite) to me before and to
>> another in my sight has now consigned me to the 47degF streets at 2:30am,
>> and will now become the person who causes my creation of a rival space,
>> with true transparent dispute resolution.
>>  Duck that. I will not be shat on. If I "join" sudoroom it will be only
>> as an addition to sudo space or spaces where everyone who can stay civil
>> and kind is welcome, and whence I launch our As Yet To Be Named Academy
>> Eddan wouldn't accept my money before bankaccount day, so please calculate
>> my past due dues, and let me know.
>>
>>
>> Sent from my HTC One™ S on T-Mobile, two companies now forever to be
>> infamous for opt-out piggyback-vector viral marketing.
>>
>> ----- Reply message -----
>> From: "Marina Kukso" <marina.kukso at gmail.com>
>> To: "Sudoroom" <sudoroom at lists.hackerspaces.org>
>> Subject: [sudoroom] Sudoroom open!
>> Date: Tue, Dec 11, 2012 6:11 PM
>>
>>
>> sudo room is open
>>
>>
>>
>>  On Dec 8, 2012 10:12 AM, "Marina Kukso" <marina.kukso at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi everyone, sudo room is open and coffee is brewing. :)
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