[sudoroom] Art murmur planning - meet this week?

Anthony Di Franco di.franco at gmail.com
Thu Aug 23 09:13:21 CEST 2012 

I came; I saw; it was pretty cool; I might see about getting one of these
for sudoroom.
On Aug 22, 2012 9:32 PM, "rachel lyra hospodar" <rachelyra at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi all,
> I am at noisebridge and am talking to Miloh about typeamachines.com which
> is apparently (where have I been??) A 3d printing platform developed at
> noisebridge that is better & cheaper than makerbots.
>
> He offered to bring one to art murmur and do 3d prints! I assume we are
> into this :)
>
> R.
>
> mediumreality.com
> On Aug 22, 2012 12:11 PM, "rachel lyra hospodar" <rachelyra at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Hi all! I'm excited to host this meeting, although a head count would be
>> good. We have a finite quantity of chairs.  I'll try to do snacks or
>> something too. Sudo is not that far from Coyote so a 2-part meeting might
>> be doable! I'd love to have everyone see this space to help imagine what
>> might be possible if we got the storefront space in sudo building, and/or
>> put in work studios into a different space.
>>
>> See you all at 6 on Friday.
>>
>> R.
>>
>> mediumreality.com
>> On Aug 21, 2012 10:13 PM, "Marina Kukso" <marina.kukso at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> awesome! is 6pm too early for people? it works for me... (i will also
>>> tentatively commit to snacks - no promises! ;))
>>>
>>> regarding skot, we could always swing by the space afterwards if people
>>> will have transportation? alternately, is skot at all available on monday
>>> nights?
>>>
>>>
>>> marina
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Aug 21, 2012 at 9:48 PM, Tracy Jacobs <kinetical at comcast.net>wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> This works for me on Friday too. I would like to see your shop Rachel.
>>>>   Skot, who is exhibiting his wall piece, was talking about coming to this
>>>> meeting.  He really wants to see the space though, he hasn't seen it.   Has
>>>> anyone talked to Hartman?   Is he exhibiting paintings? It might be good to
>>>> involve him in our conference.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>>
>>>> Tracy
>>>>
>>>> On Aug 21, 2012, at 9:25 PM, Marina Kukso wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi all,
>>>>
>>>> Tracy, very glad to hear you're better.
>>>>
>>>> tomorrow evening is less good for me.
>>>>
>>>> friday at coyote counter collective at 6PM sounds good to me - tracy
>>>> and anyone else, would that time work for you?
>>>>
>>>>  - marina
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Aug 21, 2012 at 7:58 PM, rachel lyra hospodar <
>>>> rachelyra at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Glad to hear you are on the mend, tracy! I guess tonight was too soon
>>>>> to get a meeting together. How do folks feel about Friday? I am working my
>>>>> store on Friday, till 6pm close, if folks are into it we could meet there?
>>>>> It might be fun.
>>>>>
>>>>> R.
>>>>>
>>>>> mediumreality.com
>>>>> On Aug 21, 2012 4:58 PM, "Tracy Jacobs" <kinetical at comcast.net> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi MArina,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> That's probably a good idea.  I feel like I'm just coming out of a
>>>>>> fog; I finally got prescribed antibiotics for what has been an ongoing
>>>>>> illness for over a month.  I also am trying to meet another show deadline
>>>>>> for September.  So, I'm afraid I am behind with other responsibilities.
>>>>>>  Tomorrow works for me, anytime in the evening.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Tracy
>>>>>> On Aug 21, 2012, at 2:02 PM, Marina Kukso wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> hi everyone,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> what would be a good day for folks who are interested in organizing
>>>>>> art murmur stuff to meet?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> is anyone available tomorrow during the day? what about friday
>>>>>> evening (a very popular time to work on things, i know ;))? any other times?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> (i know that thursday is bad for rachel, i can do tomorrow anytime
>>>>>> except for around 6:30.)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> thanks,
>>>>>> marina
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tue, Aug 21, 2012 at 1:03 PM, Jenny Ryan <jenny at thepyre.org>wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Forgot to add, you can add to these notes here:
>>>>>>> https://pad.riseup.net/p/sudoroom
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Tue, Aug 21, 2012 at 2:45 AM, Jenny Ryan <jenny at thepyre.org>wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Tonight's meeting was seriously rad. Thanks to everyone who
>>>>>>>> participated. Notes below!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Also, please add to these notes, as much is missing! Specifically,
>>>>>>>> no one was taking notes when we were discussing the current space and
>>>>>>>> actively working out the budget for September.
>>>>>>>> *
>>>>>>>> -------------------------
>>>>>>>> 8/20/12*
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> *Attendees*: max, deno, marc, anthony, jenny, rachel, matt,
>>>>>>>> marina, aestetix
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> *Announcements*:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> OA Hackathon @ PLOS: saturday/sunday 8/25-8/26:
>>>>>>>> http://oahack2012.eventbrite.com/
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Art opening and show at coyote counter collective: saturday 8/25,
>>>>>>>> 2-7PM: 423 40th st:
>>>>>>>> http://coyotecounter.tumblr.com/post/29833778448/saturday-8-25-vagabondage-w-special-guests
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Sewing hackspace merging with hackspace: Rachel's sewing collective
>>>>>>>> (http://coyotecounter.tumblr.com <http://coyotecounter.tumblrcom>) has a year in her lease. She is interested in merging with a hackerspace
>>>>>>>> at the end of her lease.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Art Murmur 9/7: live clothes-hacking, sculptures, etc. parties who
>>>>>>>> are interested in working on the next art murmur, when should we meet? MK
>>>>>>>> will email the list to figure out a good day to meet to plan.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> *Sudosuite*
>>>>>>>> Write a program to enact our budgeting and resource allocation
>>>>>>>> plans.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>    - Interested parties: Jenny, Anthony, Marc, Matt, aestetix,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>    - Existing solutions: paypal, wepay, square, stripe, clearbon,
>>>>>>>>    Compare to http://hackerspaces.org/wiki/Hackerspace_Software
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>    - See also: metalab's hackerspace OS (
>>>>>>>>    https://github.com/fhahn/hackerspace-os#readme); labitat's
>>>>>>>>    model (https://github.com/labitat), more:
>>>>>>>>    http://hackerspaces.org/wiki/Hackerspace_Software
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>    - Feature Requirements:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>    - ability to take payments (strong preference to not use
>>>>>>>>    square/paypal)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>    - do we want to make available publically who pay and who
>>>>>>>>    doesn't? is the budget public (within the membership vs to the outside)?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>    - ability to issue receipts
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>    - internal economy/earmarked contributions
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>    - Desirable trades: your own or any other member's
>>>>>>>>    future/current dues, member projects, keep in the pot, raising/lowering
>>>>>>>>    dues, one time payments, recurring payments
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>    - track users, status of users, user history
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>    - direct deposit
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>    - tip jar?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>    - Ideally, this creates a sort of Kickstarter-like system for
>>>>>>>>    Sudoers to contribute to group projects
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>    - Group Membership
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> *Federation Model*
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>    - Rachel suggests future potential partnership w/ her
>>>>>>>>    art/clothes-hacking co-operative workshop & store (lease ends in a year)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>    - DIYbio space w/ Ryan and friends
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>    - FixIt Clinic
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Rachel is nominated to "Chancellor of Punching" - She accepts.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Eddan: JOBS Act now open for public comments (specifically re:
>>>>>>>> crowdfunding bill)
>>>>>>>> -Also suggests funding August rent through soliciting
>>>>>>>> organizational sponsorship
>>>>>>>> --> Matt is not into this idea, thinks we need to cover our own
>>>>>>>> costs and not do this form of sponsorship for the purpose of covering our
>>>>>>>> basic costs
>>>>>>>> -Concerns over 'being beholden' as well as it being too soon to
>>>>>>>> engage in these activities
>>>>>>>>  -Concerns that money should not be involved to be able to sponsor
>>>>>>>> Sudo Room
>>>>>>>> ---> Vote of Confidence page!
>>>>>>>> -The bylaws do allow for group membership
>>>>>>>> -Important to open up
>>>>>>>> -Difference between, say, being sponsored by O'Reilly (Matt doesn't
>>>>>>>> like their business model; Rachel points out that they're DARPA-funded) and
>>>>>>>> being sponsored by DanceSafe.. and what 'sponsorship' entails (see
>>>>>>>> 'Non-Monetary Membership', below).
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> SudoPAC?!
>>>>>>>> Eddan's spoken with some District 3 representatives, suggests
>>>>>>>> holding a debate at Sudo Room re: tech & innovation policies in Oakland.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  Becoming Legit (in the eyes of the Powers That Be):
>>>>>>>> Wednesday
>>>>>>>> -Getting a DBA
>>>>>>>> -Get bank account
>>>>>>>> --> bring Proof of Existence, the DBA, and the bylaws/compact
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> *Non-Monetary Membership*
>>>>>>>> "Want List" - Every member can vote on one thing they want to have
>>>>>>>> in the space, which gets added to the group's "want list" for non-monetary
>>>>>>>> contributions
>>>>>>>> -Discussion of social justice wrt membership and currency valuation
>>>>>>>> -Having time is in itself a privilege
>>>>>>>> -One person's labor, and the time put into that labor, is not
>>>>>>>> equivalent to another's - beyond skill/expertise is the individual's
>>>>>>>> background/education/privilege, granting varying levels of choice,
>>>>>>>> resources and responsibilities.
>>>>>>>> -Let's work on creating a model that actually levels the playing
>>>>>>>> field.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ---------
>>>>>>>> Jenny
>>>>>>>> http://jennyryan.net
>>>>>>>> http://thepyre.org
>>>>>>>> http://thevirtualcampfire.org
>>>>>>>> http://technomadic.tumblr.com
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> `~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`
>>>>>>>>  "Technology is the campfire around which we tell our stories."
>>>>>>>> -Laurie Anderson
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "Storytelling reveals meaning without committing the error of
>>>>>>>> defining it."
>>>>>>>>  -Hannah Arendt
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "To define is to kill. To suggest is to create."
>>>>>>>> -Stéphane Mallarmé
>>>>>>>> ~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
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