[sudoroom] Art murmur planning - meet this week?
rachel lyra hospodar
rachelyra at gmail.com
Thu Aug 23 06:32:25 CEST 2012
Hi all,
I am at noisebridge and am talking to Miloh about typeamachines.com which
is apparently (where have I been??) A 3d printing platform developed at
noisebridge that is better & cheaper than makerbots.
He offered to bring one to art murmur and do 3d prints! I assume we are
into this :)
R.
mediumreality.com
On Aug 22, 2012 12:11 PM, "rachel lyra hospodar" <rachelyra at gmail.com>
wrote:
> Hi all! I'm excited to host this meeting, although a head count would be
> good. We have a finite quantity of chairs. I'll try to do snacks or
> something too. Sudo is not that far from Coyote so a 2-part meeting might
> be doable! I'd love to have everyone see this space to help imagine what
> might be possible if we got the storefront space in sudo building, and/or
> put in work studios into a different space.
>
> See you all at 6 on Friday.
>
> R.
>
> mediumreality.com
> On Aug 21, 2012 10:13 PM, "Marina Kukso" <marina.kukso at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> awesome! is 6pm too early for people? it works for me... (i will also
>> tentatively commit to snacks - no promises! ;))
>>
>> regarding skot, we could always swing by the space afterwards if people
>> will have transportation? alternately, is skot at all available on monday
>> nights?
>>
>>
>> marina
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Aug 21, 2012 at 9:48 PM, Tracy Jacobs <kinetical at comcast.net>wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> This works for me on Friday too. I would like to see your shop Rachel.
>>> Skot, who is exhibiting his wall piece, was talking about coming to this
>>> meeting. He really wants to see the space though, he hasn't seen it. Has
>>> anyone talked to Hartman? Is he exhibiting paintings? It might be good to
>>> involve him in our conference.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Tracy
>>>
>>> On Aug 21, 2012, at 9:25 PM, Marina Kukso wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> Tracy, very glad to hear you're better.
>>>
>>> tomorrow evening is less good for me.
>>>
>>> friday at coyote counter collective at 6PM sounds good to me - tracy and
>>> anyone else, would that time work for you?
>>>
>>> - marina
>>>
>>> On Tue, Aug 21, 2012 at 7:58 PM, rachel lyra hospodar <
>>> rachelyra at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Glad to hear you are on the mend, tracy! I guess tonight was too soon
>>>> to get a meeting together. How do folks feel about Friday? I am working my
>>>> store on Friday, till 6pm close, if folks are into it we could meet there?
>>>> It might be fun.
>>>>
>>>> R.
>>>>
>>>> mediumreality.com
>>>> On Aug 21, 2012 4:58 PM, "Tracy Jacobs" <kinetical at comcast.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi MArina,
>>>>>
>>>>> That's probably a good idea. I feel like I'm just coming out of a
>>>>> fog; I finally got prescribed antibiotics for what has been an ongoing
>>>>> illness for over a month. I also am trying to meet another show deadline
>>>>> for September. So, I'm afraid I am behind with other responsibilities.
>>>>> Tomorrow works for me, anytime in the evening.
>>>>>
>>>>> Tracy
>>>>> On Aug 21, 2012, at 2:02 PM, Marina Kukso wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> hi everyone,
>>>>>
>>>>> what would be a good day for folks who are interested in organizing
>>>>> art murmur stuff to meet?
>>>>>
>>>>> is anyone available tomorrow during the day? what about friday evening
>>>>> (a very popular time to work on things, i know ;))? any other times?
>>>>>
>>>>> (i know that thursday is bad for rachel, i can do tomorrow anytime
>>>>> except for around 6:30.)
>>>>>
>>>>> thanks,
>>>>> marina
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Aug 21, 2012 at 1:03 PM, Jenny Ryan <jenny at thepyre.org> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Forgot to add, you can add to these notes here:
>>>>>> https://pad.riseup.net/p/sudoroom
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tue, Aug 21, 2012 at 2:45 AM, Jenny Ryan <jenny at thepyre.org>wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Tonight's meeting was seriously rad. Thanks to everyone who
>>>>>>> participated. Notes below!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Also, please add to these notes, as much is missing! Specifically,
>>>>>>> no one was taking notes when we were discussing the current space and
>>>>>>> actively working out the budget for September.
>>>>>>> *
>>>>>>> -------------------------
>>>>>>> 8/20/12*
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *Attendees*: max, deno, marc, anthony, jenny, rachel, matt, marina,
>>>>>>> aestetix
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *Announcements*:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> OA Hackathon @ PLOS: saturday/sunday 8/25-8/26:
>>>>>>> http://oahack2012.eventbrite.com/
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Art opening and show at coyote counter collective: saturday 8/25,
>>>>>>> 2-7PM: 423 40th st:
>>>>>>> http://coyotecounter.tumblr.com/post/29833778448/saturday-8-25-vagabondage-w-special-guests
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Sewing hackspace merging with hackspace: Rachel's sewing collective (
>>>>>>> http://coyotecounter.tumblr.com <http://coyotecounter.tumblrcom> )
>>>>>>> has a year in her lease. She is interested in merging with a hackerspace at
>>>>>>> the end of her lease.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Art Murmur 9/7: live clothes-hacking, sculptures, etc. parties who
>>>>>>> are interested in working on the next art murmur, when should we meet? MK
>>>>>>> will email the list to figure out a good day to meet to plan.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *Sudosuite*
>>>>>>> Write a program to enact our budgeting and resource allocation
>>>>>>> plans.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> - Interested parties: Jenny, Anthony, Marc, Matt, aestetix,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> - Existing solutions: paypal, wepay, square, stripe, clearbon,
>>>>>>> Compare to http://hackerspaces.org/wiki/Hackerspace_Software
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> - See also: metalab's hackerspace OS (
>>>>>>> https://github.com/fhahn/hackerspace-os#readme); labitat's model
>>>>>>> (https://github.com/labitat), more:
>>>>>>> http://hackerspaces.org/wiki/Hackerspace_Software
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> - Feature Requirements:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> - ability to take payments (strong preference to not use
>>>>>>> square/paypal)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> - do we want to make available publically who pay and who
>>>>>>> doesn't? is the budget public (within the membership vs to the outside)?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> - ability to issue receipts
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> - internal economy/earmarked contributions
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> - Desirable trades: your own or any other member's
>>>>>>> future/current dues, member projects, keep in the pot, raising/lowering
>>>>>>> dues, one time payments, recurring payments
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> - track users, status of users, user history
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> - direct deposit
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> - tip jar?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> - Ideally, this creates a sort of Kickstarter-like system for
>>>>>>> Sudoers to contribute to group projects
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> - Group Membership
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *Federation Model*
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> - Rachel suggests future potential partnership w/ her
>>>>>>> art/clothes-hacking co-operative workshop & store (lease ends in a year)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> - DIYbio space w/ Ryan and friends
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> - FixIt Clinic
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Rachel is nominated to "Chancellor of Punching" - She accepts.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Eddan: JOBS Act now open for public comments (specifically re:
>>>>>>> crowdfunding bill)
>>>>>>> -Also suggests funding August rent through soliciting organizational
>>>>>>> sponsorship
>>>>>>> --> Matt is not into this idea, thinks we need to cover our own
>>>>>>> costs and not do this form of sponsorship for the purpose of covering our
>>>>>>> basic costs
>>>>>>> -Concerns over 'being beholden' as well as it being too soon to
>>>>>>> engage in these activities
>>>>>>> -Concerns that money should not be involved to be able to sponsor
>>>>>>> Sudo Room
>>>>>>> ---> Vote of Confidence page!
>>>>>>> -The bylaws do allow for group membership
>>>>>>> -Important to open up
>>>>>>> -Difference between, say, being sponsored by O'Reilly (Matt doesn't
>>>>>>> like their business model; Rachel points out that they're DARPA-funded) and
>>>>>>> being sponsored by DanceSafe.. and what 'sponsorship' entails (see
>>>>>>> 'Non-Monetary Membership', below).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> SudoPAC?!
>>>>>>> Eddan's spoken with some District 3 representatives, suggests
>>>>>>> holding a debate at Sudo Room re: tech & innovation policies in Oakland.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Becoming Legit (in the eyes of the Powers That Be):
>>>>>>> Wednesday
>>>>>>> -Getting a DBA
>>>>>>> -Get bank account
>>>>>>> --> bring Proof of Existence, the DBA, and the bylaws/compact
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *Non-Monetary Membership*
>>>>>>> "Want List" - Every member can vote on one thing they want to have
>>>>>>> in the space, which gets added to the group's "want list" for non-monetary
>>>>>>> contributions
>>>>>>> -Discussion of social justice wrt membership and currency valuation
>>>>>>> -Having time is in itself a privilege
>>>>>>> -One person's labor, and the time put into that labor, is not
>>>>>>> equivalent to another's - beyond skill/expertise is the individual's
>>>>>>> background/education/privilege, granting varying levels of choice,
>>>>>>> resources and responsibilities.
>>>>>>> -Let's work on creating a model that actually levels the playing
>>>>>>> field.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ---------
>>>>>>> Jenny
>>>>>>> http://jennyryan.net
>>>>>>> http://thepyre.org
>>>>>>> http://thevirtualcampfire.org
>>>>>>> http://technomadic.tumblr.com
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> `~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`
>>>>>>> "Technology is the campfire around which we tell our stories."
>>>>>>> -Laurie Anderson
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Storytelling reveals meaning without committing the error of
>>>>>>> defining it."
>>>>>>> -Hannah Arendt
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "To define is to kill. To suggest is to create."
>>>>>>> -Stéphane Mallarmé
>>>>>>> ~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>> sudoroom mailing list
>>>>>> sudoroom at lists.hackerspaces.org
>>>>>> http://lists.hackerspaces.org/mailman/listinfo/sudoroom
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> sudoroom mailing list
>>>>> sudoroom at lists.hackerspaces.org
>>>>> http://lists.hackerspaces.org/mailman/listinfo/sudoroom
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> sudoroom mailing list
>>>>> sudoroom at lists.hackerspaces.org
>>>>> http://lists.hackerspaces.org/mailman/listinfo/sudoroom
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: <http://lists.hackerspaces.org/pipermail/sudoroom/attachments/20120822/8283aa51/attachment.html>
More information about the sudoroom
mailing list