[SpaceProgram] sea vs. spacesteading

Lee von Kraus leevonk at gmail.com
Thu Sep 27 19:07:54 CEST 2012

I actually won a small grant ($1000) about a year ago to build a minimalist
submersible habitat. It was going to be a transparent diving bell type
thing made out of a solid acrylic dome, filled with air and tied to some
anchors. Then I saw that someone had already build something similar using
a transparent tarp for the dome with a net over it that was tied to anchors

I still have the gear I bought to build it but I never was able to find a
suitable place to put it (needs big, big anchors). The gear includes a
thick transparent tarp, large cargo net, and a scuba 'hookah', surface
supply setup (to aid in setup and swimming down to the base). I live in
Brooklyn New York if anyone knows a good location (most are too polluted or
have heavy boat traffic) or would want to help out in installing it
somewhere. In any case the general concept could be used to make a
prototype to do tests with (isolation, power generation, etc). If someone
has a good location near them I could maybe bring the gear and we could set
it up there. Alternatively we could contact the 'bubble room' people (in
the video)


On Thu, Sep 27, 2012 at 12:59 PM, cole santos <cksantos85 at gmail.com> wrote:

> I love otec, ive seen it in action on the big island. when combined with a
> thermal vent, or geothermal well it could be much more efficient.
> On Sep 27, 2012 1:59 AM, "Pastor Gabe" <gabeterasem at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Glad  to see this discussion and wanted to throw a couple cents in...
>> There is a lot of interest in the seasteading community in space. There
>> are I would say three factions of the movement: capitalists, libertarians
>> and spacers. Someone noted that the there are many ties between sea and
>> space but technology the least of them, and that in some ways is true.
>> Especially when you look at the converted oil rig architecture, there is
>> little practical application of that tech in space. Someone else however
>> noted the link between underwater and space, which is exactly where I and
>> the spacer faction of seasteaders want to take this. The political and
>> ecological work done by seasteaders is also useful, but by it's nature I
>> think this group is really focused on the tech.
>> Here is my vision for shared progress:
>> An ocean floor/submarine habitat, powered solely by OTEC, thermal vent or
>> reactor simulates the conditions of space as best and as cheaply as
>> possible, including the psychological isolation issues. Submerging a
>> habitat is virtually free compared to placing it in orbit. Space actually
>> has an advantage of allowing us to use inflatable technology that is not
>> practical submarine. An argument I made during the 100yss conference is
>> that seasteading is a sandbox for spacesteading. Sure some things will need
>> to be adapted, but there is a lot we can test and in doing so develop the
>> foundation and confidence that there is a commercially viable interest in a
>> space industry. I ask people to look at America's founding, with large
>> corporations not forming or coming onboard until small communities put it
>> all on the line to make the move to the new frontier. The oceans may not be
>> our destination, but it will be on our journey.
>> I also want to applaud everyone's efforts here. I hope and believe that
>> it will be people like you that make dreams of space travel/ living a
>> reality.
>> --
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