[SpaceProgram] 57 hours remaining to submit RFP for 100YSS

[Paul Szymkowiak]

Hi Ricky/ Jerry,

I think Jerry has raised a number of great points, but particularly his
points regarding the approach to education:

 One thought I had -- the program should have an educational component -
> one to teach people helping in near term, and for much later when starship
> is enroute.  This is a multi-generational effort and we need to train
> people up quickly.  Perhaps we could sponsor some competitions to develop
> focused self-taught/group classes in various Maker tech... rapid prototype
> machines, 3d design for rapid manufacturing, microelectronics (arduino,
> general electronics), troubleshooting, programming etc.  The course
> materials would be CC licensed and available through the organization to
> further the development of other projects.  We could/should have
> educational component to most of the other projects so as to distribute the
> knowledge of how to build it.
>

Kicking this off can be part of the job of the full-time officer of the
organization. We've been doing pretty well with our classes at XinCheJian
and I'd love to keep extending this educational effort.


Ricky, I think this is a key hackerspace differentiator, and an important
response to 100YSS. What Jerry is talking about here needs to be a core
part of the vision and plan now, not something to be kicked off later
(although of course the *implementation* would be).

This is a great vision of how hackerspaces fit the need, and I see two key
elements here: 1) a truly open source, creative commons "from the ground
up" maker education program, and 2) a maker education program that, from
the outset, addresses the need for 100YSS to have *enroute*
multi-generational learning and self-improvement to support ongoing
development and discovery of new technologies.


Cheers,


Paul

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On 10 November 2011 08:12, Ricky Ng-Adam <rngadam at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hello Jerry!
>
> On Thu, Nov 10, 2011 at 4:49 AM, Jerry Isdale <jerry at mauimakers.com>wrote:
>
>> Aloha
>>
>> I've been remiss in putting some time to this effort. I looked at and
>> edited the g-doc proposal a bit this AM. I added myself in the participant
>> part and updated the MauiMakers section a bit.  In the Sources of Funding
>> section, I added Crowd-Sourced (eg Kickstarter) for specific projects.
>>
>
> Good idea! The way I've got it setup right now is that we will have
> regular distributions every 3 months to a new hackerspace to cover projects
> to the amount of 30K$USD dollars. Obviously, additional funds to this would
> be important and actually could be a good way to gauge how much support and
> interest there is for a project. Perhaps a criteria before funding a
> project out of the 100YSS.
>
> One thought I had -- the program should have an educational component -
>> one to teach people helping in near term, and for much later when starship
>> is enroute.  This is a multi-generational effort and we need to train
>> people up quickly.  Perhaps we could sponsor some competitions to develop
>> focused self-taught/group classes in various Maker tech... rapid prototype
>> machines, 3d design for rapid manufacturing, microelectronics (arduino,
>> general electronics), troubleshooting, programming etc.  The course
>> materials would be CC licensed and available through the organization to
>> further the development of other projects.  We could/should have
>> educational component to most of the other projects so as to distribute the
>> knowledge of how to build it.
>>
>
> Kicking this off can be part of the job of the full-time officer of the
> organization. We've been doing pretty well with our classes at XinCheJian
> and I'd love to keep extending this educational effort.
>
> Sponsoring hackerspace/open competitions for various focused topic
>> challenges could be another good way for our organization to develop the
>> general tech for the 100YSS.
>>
>
> The general sense I got from DARPA is that they'd rather have us develop
> collaboration instead of the competition. Although organizing competition
> instead of collaborative efforts is much easier to understand.
>
>
>> That said, there is a LOT of stuff DARPA will be looking for in a
>> proposal, not the least of which is the financial/management aspect.  I'm
>> not qualified to do this part, but speak from experience with prior DARPA
>> proposals.  They look heavily at both the tech side and the
>> can-they-actually-pull-this-off side -- oh yeah and the
>> can-they-handle-the-FAR-accounting-requirements angle.  I dont know if they
>> need us to be FAR compliant. I hope not. That sucks up a huge chuck of the
>> funding by itself.
>>
>
> I don't think FAR will enter the equation; we'll be a separate
> organization with very little links back to DARPA apart from checking that
> we're fulfilling our obligations. At least, that's the sense I get from
> reading the requirements.
>
> I've just worked on a cash flow:
>
>
> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AuPYJiOSewXLdEtTUGhSd3ZGQ0p6MmJfMzFoQzFLZ2c&hl=fr#gid=0
>
>
> I think they'd be getting the best deal with us.  Me and Min Lin Hsieh
> full-time with no salary - just covering our expenses. By the end of the
> two years at least 8 different organizations participating with funded
> projects using a majority of the original grant going to actually make
> concrete progress towards the long-term goals of the 100YSS.
>
> (I'm sure some may find it icky that I'm putting myself as a full-time
> member of the organization but AFAIK there isn't that many people willing
> to float around the planet for the next two years without a salary. Even
> less finding two persons that have experience working as a team and
> complimentary interests and skillset ^_^ But feel free to argue with me on
> this if you don't like the idea.)
>
> Lots to write up here to make it a full response.
>>
>
> Yes! Thanks for your help, much appreciated. I still have two days ahead
> of me so I think we can make it. I feel more confident now that I have a
> detailed cashflow.
>
> Thanks,
>  --
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>
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