[Spaceapi-devel] SpaceAPI forked at spacedirectory.org - what's the plan?

[Danilo Bargen]

Hi all

> I personally am hopeful that they mean well and we could
> merge our efforts potentially.

Yes, we absolutely do want to merge our efforts if possible! :)
Fragmentation would be sad.

Is Romain the only maintainer, or are there others? I wasn't aware of
any others (although only now I see that there are other members in the
spaceapi Github organization).

> Some of the things that Romain already
> wrote could potentially be usable on this new effort but I don't
> personally know how to set them up properly.

Me neither, unfortunately, and since I didn't really manage to change
that via Email and since deployment is apparently quite complex I
thought it would be better to rewrite some of those parts.

E.g. the website (https://github.com/spacedirectory/spacedirectory.org)
is now statically generated HTML using Pelican, really simple to deploy.
The API documentation is generated from the specification using a Python
script. The specification has been updated to the latest JSON schema
version. The Directory is actively maintained.

Many of the things that added complexity (e.g. the caching of directory
responses) is probably not necessary and could be left away to make
maintenance easier. The database based platform where people can
generate dynamic SpaceAPI endpoints could be replaced by a script that
generates pull requests on the fly.

We also discussed decentralization a bit - as long as the directory
consists of simple JSON files it can be hosted by anyone. Maybe adding
an automatic git sync script might help to get more "mirrors".

> I don't know how they intend to do governance of the spec / requirements
> for the new directory software.

Regarding the code and directory, having everything in a single Github
organization with multiple active members would be good to increase the
bus factory. Doing discussions on Github probably wouldn't be too bad
either. In our case we added a "meta"-Repository:
https://github.com/spacedirectory/meta Not a lot of discussion so far
though.

If there's a way to merge our efforts, ideally under the SpaceAPI name,
please let us know!

Cheers,
Danilo


Am Sa, 21. Jan 2017, um 19:01, schrieb Eric Stein:
> Out of respect for Koen's wishes, I have removed him from the thread. 
> Please reply to this message if you have anything to add.
> 
> Eric
> 
> On 01/21/2017 05:06 AM, Koen Martens wrote:
> > Hi all,
> >
> > I originally came up with the idea of the spaceapi, and it's fun to see
> > how so many of the early adoptors made it into something real.
> >
> > However, after the lies, propaganda, crap and abuse the CCC and Jacob
> > Appelbaum directed at me, i no longer feel at home in the
> > hacker-community at large. I have long since said goodbye to that
> > treachorous quagmire of backstabbing bs. I've sure had some great times,
> > and there's many in the community I miss, but on the whole the balance
> > has tipped to the negative regarding my involvement with it all.
> >
> > Do whatever you want folks, just don't include me in any of your plans.
> > Especially not if the ccc is in any way, either directly or indirectly,
> > involved.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Koen (gmc)
> >
> > On Fri, Jan 20, 2017 at 04:02:04PM -0600, Jim Campbell wrote:
> >>     I think I'm reading this as the servers that we've had running for a long
> >>     while haven't been used at all?  Is that right? I had assumed that, since
> >>     the space api website was up, that it was using those servers.
> >>     Whatever you all end up doing is fine, but those servers have been up for
> >>     probably years, so I'm a bit disappointed to know that they haven't been
> >>     used. Let me know what you decide to do.
> >>     Jim
> >>     On Fri, Jan 20, 2017 at 3:43 PM, Eric Stein <toba at des.truct.org> wrote:
> >>
> >>       Hey SpaceAPI maintainers & interested parties...
> >>
> >>       Just heard from Sheila that https://spacedirectory.org/ is a thing
> >>       that's happened.  The announcement about spacedirectory.org -
> >>       http://lists.hackerspaces.org/pipermail/discuss/2017-January/011302.html.
> >>
> >>       I got us some VMs from Jim a long time ago and we never managed to cut
> >>       over to them due to various reasons. Do we still need those servers?Â
> >>       Current SpaceAPI maintainers (Roland, Romain, Koen) - what do you think
> >>       of this?  I personally am hopeful that they mean well and we could
> >>       merge our efforts potentially. Some of the things that Romain already
> >>       wrote could potentially be usable on this new effort but I don't
> >>       personally know how to set them up properly.
> >>
> >>       I don't know how they intend to do governance of the spec / requirements
> >>       for the new directory software.
> >>
> >>       Eric Stein
> >>
> >>       @toba
> >>
> >>       Pumping Station: One member