[Hackupy-discuss] Hackupy-discuss Digest, Vol 2, Issue 8

[David Farr]

Yes please give more  info on the noisebridge , its sounds really
interesting! We are looking for internet solutions here in WA.
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>   1. Re: [Noisebridge-discuss] Reports from the ground of raid at
>      jhp (fwd) (Jake)
>   2. Re: [Noisebridge-discuss] Reports from the ground of raid at
>      jhp (fwd) (Jake)
>   3. Re: [Noisebridge-discuss] Reports from the ground of raid at
>      jhp (fwd) (Rubin Abdi)
>   4. Re: [Noisebridge-discuss] Reports from the ground of raid at
>      jhp (fwd) (Jake)
>   5. This Is What Revolution Looks Like (Jake)
>   6. Re: [Noisebridge-discuss] Reports from the ground of raid at
>      jhp (fwd) (Moritz Bartl)
>   7. Re: [Noisebridge-discuss] Reports from the ground of raid at
>      jhp (fwd) (Jake)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Wed, 7 Dec 2011 15:53:56 -0800 (PST)
> From: Jake <jake at spaz.org>
> To: hackupy-discuss at lists.hackerspaces.org
> Subject: Re: [Hackupy-discuss] [Noisebridge-discuss] Reports from the
>        ground of raid at jhp (fwd)
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> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XBiTs-nczDU
>
> you can see at 0:44 a worker trying to figure out what to do with the
> ten-foot
> pole which was part of my pole-cam.
>
> was anyone we know arrested?
>
> Also, whoever has information on the Clear modem, and the Picostations and
> stuff that was taken, should immediately contact the Department of Pubic
> Works
> of San Francisco and tell them that your property was taken.  Make sure
> you are
> the only one claiming ownership of that equipment though.
>
> If the city is unable to return your equipment, you will have to file a
> claim
> with the city attorney (forms are available on their site) and if they do
> not
> find your equipment or pay to replace it, you will have to file a
> small-claims
> lawsuit (forms are available on their site, fee is $30)
>
>
> ------------------------------
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> Message: 2
> Date: Wed, 7 Dec 2011 15:55:21 -0800 (PST)
> From: Jake <jake at spaz.org>
> To: hackupy-discuss at lists.hackerspaces.org
> Subject: Re: [Hackupy-discuss] [Noisebridge-discuss] Reports from the
>        ground of raid at jhp (fwd)
> Message-ID: <alpine.BSF.2.00.1112071554030.90173 at pe2950.spaz.org>
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> Also,  I would like to know what happened to the pedal-power charging
> station.  I need to find out from someone who knows for sure whether it
> was removed from the scene before the raid started or if it was taken by
> the city.
>
> If you know who might know, please have them contact me or tell me who to
> contact about that.
>
> thanks
> -jake
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 3
> Date: Wed, 07 Dec 2011 16:53:52 -0800
> From: Rubin Abdi <rubin at starset.net>
> To: Jake <jake at spaz.org>
> Cc: hackupy-discuss at lists.hackerspaces.org
> Subject: Re: [Hackupy-discuss] [Noisebridge-discuss] Reports from the
>        ground of raid at jhp (fwd)
> Message-ID: <4EE00AA0.3090206 at starset.net>
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>
> Jake wrote, On 2011-12-07 15:53:
> > Also, whoever has information on the Clear modem, and the Picostations
> > and stuff that was taken, should immediately contact the Department of
> > Pubic Works of San Francisco and tell them that your property was
> > taken.  Make sure you are the only one claiming ownership of that
> > equipment though.
>
> So funny that, the Noisebridge internet box is still online and never
> lost connection during the raid...
>
> http://pony.noisebridge.net/~rubin110/occupysf/
>
> We're pretty sure the box didn't get removed from the camp before police
> were able to kick everyone out or arrest those who were still waiting.
> So our guesses are...
>
> * Someone buried the box with a car battery
> * The box with poorly tethered battery is in police custody
> * DPW has all this
> * It's in some garbage truck somewhere
>
> If the police or DPW have the box, some how they were super careful not
> to disconnect it from the janky bare wires I left Occupy with.
>
> The internet box is basically a WiMax modem, a extremely strong wifi
> access point, a custom made PoE injector (PoE out of both ports!) all
> inside a plastic box with lid and Noisebridge stickers all over it. The
> thing connects to a 12V car battery.
>
> Anyhow, others can try to get it back, if not hardware is cheap and time
> isn't. We can put together another one.
>
> --
> Rubin
> rubin at starset.net
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> Message: 4
> Date: Wed, 7 Dec 2011 17:10:02 -0800 (PST)
> From: Jake <jake at spaz.org>
> To: Rubin Abdi <rubin at starset.net>
> Cc: hackupy-discuss at lists.hackerspaces.org
> Subject: Re: [Hackupy-discuss] [Noisebridge-discuss] Reports from the
>        ground of raid at jhp (fwd)
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> i can't believe we never put a GPS locator in the internet box.
>
> On Wed, 7 Dec 2011, Rubin Abdi wrote:
>
> > Jake wrote, On 2011-12-07 15:53:
> >> Also, whoever has information on the Clear modem, and the Picostations
> >> and stuff that was taken, should immediately contact the Department of
> >> Pubic Works of San Francisco and tell them that your property was
> >> taken.  Make sure you are the only one claiming ownership of that
> >> equipment though.
> >
> > So funny that, the Noisebridge internet box is still online and never
> > lost connection during the raid...
> >
> > http://pony.noisebridge.net/~rubin110/occupysf/
> >
> > We're pretty sure the box didn't get removed from the camp before police
> > were able to kick everyone out or arrest those who were still waiting.
> > So our guesses are...
> >
> > * Someone buried the box with a car battery
> > * The box with poorly tethered battery is in police custody
> > * DPW has all this
> > * It's in some garbage truck somewhere
> >
> > If the police or DPW have the box, some how they were super careful not
> > to disconnect it from the janky bare wires I left Occupy with.
> >
> > The internet box is basically a WiMax modem, a extremely strong wifi
> > access point, a custom made PoE injector (PoE out of both ports!) all
> > inside a plastic box with lid and Noisebridge stickers all over it. The
> > thing connects to a 12V car battery.
> >
> > Anyhow, others can try to get it back, if not hardware is cheap and time
> > isn't. We can put together another one.
> >
> > --
> > Rubin
> > rubin at starset.net
> >
> >
>
>
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> Message: 5
> Date: Wed, 7 Dec 2011 17:12:24 -0800 (PST)
> From: Jake <jake at spaz.org>
> To: "noisebridge-discuss at lists.noisebridge.net"
>        <noisebridge-discuss at lists.noisebridge.net>,
>        hackupy-discuss at lists.hackerspaces.org
> Subject: [Hackupy-discuss] This Is What Revolution Looks Like
> Message-ID: <alpine.BSF.2.00.1112071711150.90173 at pe2950.spaz.org>
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>
> In light of the raid on Occupy San Francisco last night, i thought i'd
> post this again.
>
> This Is What Revolution Looks Like
>
>
> http://www.truthdig.com/report/item/this_is_what_revolution_looks_like_20111115/
>
> By Chris Hedges
>
> Welcome to the revolution. Our elites have exposed their hand. They have
> nothing to offer. They can destroy but they cannot build. They can repress
> but they cannot lead. They can steal but they cannot share. They can talk
> but they cannot speak. They are as dead and useless to us as the
> water-soaked books, tents, sleeping bags, suitcases, food boxes and
> clothes that were tossed by sanitation workers Tuesday morning into
> garbage trucks in New York City. They have no ideas, no plans and no
> vision for the future.
>
> Our decaying corporate regime has strutted in Portland, Oakland and New
> York with their baton-wielding cops into a fool's paradise. They think
> they can clean up "the mess"-always employing the language of personal
> hygiene and public security-by making us disappear. They think we will all
> go home and accept their corporate nation, a nation where crime and
> government policy have become indistinguishable, where nothing in America,
> including the ordinary citizen, is deemed by those in power worth
> protecting or preserving, where corporate oligarchs awash in hundreds of
> millions of dollars are permitted to loot and pillage the last shreds of
> collective wealth, human capital and natural resources, a nation where the
> poor do not eat and workers do not work, a nation where the sick die and
> children go hungry, a nation where the consent of the governed and the
> voice of the people is a cruel joke.
>
> Get back into your cages, they are telling us. Return to watching the
> lies, absurdities, trivia and celebrity gossip we feed you in 24-hour
> cycles on television. Invest your emotional energy in the vast system of
> popular entertainment. Run up your credit card debt. Pay your loans. Be
> thankful for the scraps we toss. Chant back to us our phrases about
> democracy, greatness and freedom. Vote in our rigged political theater.
> Send your young men and women to fight and die in useless, unwinnable wars
> that provide corporations with huge profits. Stand by mutely as our
> bipartisan congressional supercommittee, either through consensus or
> cynical dysfunction, plunges you into a society without basic social
> services including unemployment benefits. Pay for the crimes of Wall
> Street.
>
> The rogues' gallery of Wall Street crooks, such as Lloyd Blankfein at
> Goldman Sachs, Howard Milstein at New York Private Bank & Trust, the media
> tycoon Rupert Murdoch, the Koch brothers and Jamie Dimon at JPMorgan Chase
> & Co., no doubt think it's over. They think it is back to the business of
> harvesting what is left of America to swell their personal and corporate
> fortunes. But they no longer have any concept of what is happening around
> them. They are as mystified and clueless about these uprisings as the
> courtiers at Versailles or in the Forbidden City who never understood
> until the very end that their world was collapsing. The billionaire mayor
> of New York, enriched by a deregulated Wall Street, is unable to grasp why
> people would spend two months sleeping in an open park and marching on
> banks. He says he understands that the Occupy protests are "cathartic" and
> "entertaining," as if demonstrating against the pain of being homeless and
> unemployed is a form of therapy or diversion, but that it is time to let
> the adults handle the affairs of state. Democratic and Republican mayors,
> along with their parties, have sold us out. But for them this is the
> beginning of the end.
>
> The historian Crane Brinton in his book "Anatomy of a Revolution" laid out
> the common route to revolution. The preconditions for successful
> revolution, Brinton argued, are discontent that affects nearly all social
> classes, widespread feelings of entrapment and despair, unfulfilled
> expectations, a unified solidarity in opposition to a tiny power elite, a
> refusal by scholars and thinkers to continue to defend the actions of the
> ruling class, an inability of government to respond to the basic needs of
> citizens, a steady loss of will within the power elite itself and
> defections from the inner circle, a crippling isolation that leaves the
> power elite without any allies or outside support and, finally, a
> financial crisis. Our corporate elite, as far as Brinton was concerned,
> has amply fulfilled these preconditions. But it is Brinton's next
> observation that is most worth remembering. Revolutions always begin, he
> wrote, by making impossible demands that if the government met would mean
> the end of the old configurations of power. The second stage, the one we
> have entered now, is the unsuccessful attempt by the power elite to quell
> the unrest and discontent through physical acts of repression.
>
> I have seen my share of revolts, insurgencies and revolutions, from the
> guerrilla conflicts in the 1980s in Central America to the civil wars in
> Algeria, the Sudan and Yemen, to the Palestinian uprising to the
> revolutions in East Germany, Czechoslovakia and Romania as well as the
> wars in the former Yugoslavia. George Orwell wrote that all tyrannies rule
> through fraud and force, but that once the fraud is exposed they must rely
> exclusively on force. We have now entered the era of naked force. The vast
> million-person bureaucracy of the internal security and surveillance state
> will not be used to stop terrorism but to try and stop us.
>
> Despotic regimes in the end collapse internally. Once the foot soldiers
> who are ordered to carry out acts of repression, such as the clearing of
> parks or arresting or even shooting demonstrators, no longer obey orders,
> the old regime swiftly crumbles. When the aging East German dictator Erich
> Honecker was unable to get paratroopers to fire on protesting crowds in
> Leipzig, the regime was finished. The same refusal to employ violence
> doomed the communist governments in Prague and Bucharest. I watched in
> December 1989 as the army general that the dictator Nicolae Ceausescu had
> depended on to crush protests condemned him to death on Christmas Day.
> Tunisia's Ben Ali and Egypt's Hosni Mubarak lost power once they could no
> longer count on the security forces to fire into crowds.
>
> The process of defection among the ruling class and security forces is
> slow and often imperceptible. These defections are advanced through a
> rigid adherence to nonviolence, a refusal to respond to police provocation
> and a verbal respect for the blue-uniformed police, no matter how awful
> they can be while wading into a crowd and using batons as battering rams
> against human bodies. The resignations of Oakland Mayor Jean Quan's
> deputy, Sharon Cornu, and the mayor's legal adviser and longtime friend,
> Dan Siegel, in protest over the clearing of the Oakland encampment are
> some of the first cracks in the edifice. "Support Occupy Oakland, not the
> 1% and its government facilitators," Siegel tweeted after his resignation.
>
> There were times when I entered the ring as a boxer and knew, as did the
> spectators, that I was woefully mismatched. Ringers, experienced boxers in
> need of a tuneup or a little practice, would go to the clubs where
> semi-pros fought, lie about their long professional fight records, and toy
> with us. Those fights became about something other than winning. They
> became about dignity and self-respect. You fought to say something about
> who you were as a human being. These bouts were punishing, physically
> brutal and demoralizing. You would get knocked down and stagger back up.
> You would reel backward from a blow that felt like a cement block. You
> would taste the saltiness of your blood on your lips. Your vision would
> blur. Your ribs, the back of your neck and your abdomen would ache. Your
> legs would feel like lead. But the longer you held on, the more the crowd
> in the club turned in your favor. No one, even you, thought you could win.
> But then, every once in a while, the ringer would get overconfident. He
> would get careless. He would become a victim of his own hubris. And you
> would find deep within yourself some new burst of energy, some untapped
> strength and, with the fury of the dispossessed, bring him down. I have
> not put on a pair of boxing gloves for 30 years. But I felt this twinge of
> euphoria again in my stomach this morning, this utter certainty that the
> impossible is possible, this realization that the mighty will fall.
>
>
>
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>
> Message: 6
> Date: Thu, 08 Dec 2011 02:20:17 +0100
> From: Moritz Bartl <moritz at torservers.net>
> To: hackupy-discuss at lists.hackerspaces.org
> Subject: Re: [Hackupy-discuss] [Noisebridge-discuss] Reports from the
>        ground of raid at jhp (fwd)
> Message-ID: <4EE010D1.5050204 at torservers.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>
> On 08.12.2011 01:53, Rubin Abdi wrote:
> > The internet box is basically a WiMax modem, a extremely strong wifi
> > access point, a custom made PoE injector (PoE out of both ports!) all
> > inside a plastic box with lid and Noisebridge stickers all over it. The
> > thing connects to a 12V car battery.
>
> Do you have the exact setup documented somewhere?
>
> --
> Moritz Bartl
> https://www.torservers.net/
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> Message: 7
> Date: Wed, 7 Dec 2011 17:20:57 -0800 (PST)
> From: Jake <jake at spaz.org>
> To: hackupy-discuss at lists.hackerspaces.org, Jonathan Lassoff
>        <jof at thejof.com>
> Subject: Re: [Hackupy-discuss] [Noisebridge-discuss] Reports from the
>        ground of raid at jhp (fwd)
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> > The internet box is basically a WiMax modem, a extremely strong wifi
> > access point, a custom made PoE injector (PoE out of both ports!) all
> > inside a plastic box with lid and Noisebridge stickers all over it. The
> > thing connects to a 12V car battery.
> >
> > Anyhow, others can try to get it back, if not hardware is cheap and time
> > isn't. We can put together another one.
> >
> > Rubin
> > rubin at starset.net
>
> Yes, please someone do try to get it back.  That someone will need the
> paperwork for the equipment, like receipts and account information for the
> clearmodem.  If you have that stuff please give it to someone to try to
> get it back.  Jof, do you want to contact the city and try to get it back?
>
>
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