<p>Yes please give more info on the noisebridge , its sounds really interesting! We are looking for internet solutions here in WA.</p>
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1. Re: [Noisebridge-discuss] Reports from the ground of raid at<br>
jhp (fwd) (Jake)<br>
2. Re: [Noisebridge-discuss] Reports from the ground of raid at<br>
jhp (fwd) (Jake)<br>
3. Re: [Noisebridge-discuss] Reports from the ground of raid at<br>
jhp (fwd) (Rubin Abdi)<br>
4. Re: [Noisebridge-discuss] Reports from the ground of raid at<br>
jhp (fwd) (Jake)<br>
5. This Is What Revolution Looks Like (Jake)<br>
6. Re: [Noisebridge-discuss] Reports from the ground of raid at<br>
jhp (fwd) (Moritz Bartl)<br>
7. Re: [Noisebridge-discuss] Reports from the ground of raid at<br>
jhp (fwd) (Jake)<br>
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Message: 1<br>
Date: Wed, 7 Dec 2011 15:53:56 -0800 (PST)<br>
From: Jake <<a href="mailto:jake@spaz.org">jake@spaz.org</a>><br>
To: <a href="mailto:hackupy-discuss@lists.hackerspaces.org">hackupy-discuss@lists.hackerspaces.org</a><br>
Subject: Re: [Hackupy-discuss] [Noisebridge-discuss] Reports from the<br>
ground of raid at jhp (fwd)<br>
Message-ID: <<a href="mailto:alpine.BSF.2.00.1112071553110.90173@pe2950.spaz.org">alpine.BSF.2.00.1112071553110.90173@pe2950.spaz.org</a>><br>
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<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XBiTs-nczDU" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XBiTs-nczDU</a><br>
<br>
you can see at 0:44 a worker trying to figure out what to do with the ten-foot<br>
pole which was part of my pole-cam.<br>
<br>
was anyone we know arrested?<br>
<br>
Also, whoever has information on the Clear modem, and the Picostations and<br>
stuff that was taken, should immediately contact the Department of Pubic Works<br>
of San Francisco and tell them that your property was taken. Make sure you are<br>
the only one claiming ownership of that equipment though.<br>
<br>
If the city is unable to return your equipment, you will have to file a claim<br>
with the city attorney (forms are available on their site) and if they do not<br>
find your equipment or pay to replace it, you will have to file a small-claims<br>
lawsuit (forms are available on their site, fee is $30)<br>
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Message: 2<br>
Date: Wed, 7 Dec 2011 15:55:21 -0800 (PST)<br>
From: Jake <<a href="mailto:jake@spaz.org">jake@spaz.org</a>><br>
To: <a href="mailto:hackupy-discuss@lists.hackerspaces.org">hackupy-discuss@lists.hackerspaces.org</a><br>
Subject: Re: [Hackupy-discuss] [Noisebridge-discuss] Reports from the<br>
ground of raid at jhp (fwd)<br>
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Also, I would like to know what happened to the pedal-power charging<br>
station. I need to find out from someone who knows for sure whether it<br>
was removed from the scene before the raid started or if it was taken by<br>
the city.<br>
<br>
If you know who might know, please have them contact me or tell me who to<br>
contact about that.<br>
<br>
thanks<br>
-jake<br>
<br>
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Message: 3<br>
Date: Wed, 07 Dec 2011 16:53:52 -0800<br>
From: Rubin Abdi <<a href="mailto:rubin@starset.net">rubin@starset.net</a>><br>
To: Jake <<a href="mailto:jake@spaz.org">jake@spaz.org</a>><br>
Cc: <a href="mailto:hackupy-discuss@lists.hackerspaces.org">hackupy-discuss@lists.hackerspaces.org</a><br>
Subject: Re: [Hackupy-discuss] [Noisebridge-discuss] Reports from the<br>
ground of raid at jhp (fwd)<br>
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Jake wrote, On 2011-12-07 15:53:<br>
> Also, whoever has information on the Clear modem, and the Picostations<br>
> and stuff that was taken, should immediately contact the Department of<br>
> Pubic Works of San Francisco and tell them that your property was<br>
> taken. Make sure you are the only one claiming ownership of that<br>
> equipment though.<br>
<br>
So funny that, the Noisebridge internet box is still online and never<br>
lost connection during the raid...<br>
<br>
<a href="http://pony.noisebridge.net/~rubin110/occupysf/" target="_blank">http://pony.noisebridge.net/~rubin110/occupysf/</a><br>
<br>
We're pretty sure the box didn't get removed from the camp before police<br>
were able to kick everyone out or arrest those who were still waiting.<br>
So our guesses are...<br>
<br>
* Someone buried the box with a car battery<br>
* The box with poorly tethered battery is in police custody<br>
* DPW has all this<br>
* It's in some garbage truck somewhere<br>
<br>
If the police or DPW have the box, some how they were super careful not<br>
to disconnect it from the janky bare wires I left Occupy with.<br>
<br>
The internet box is basically a WiMax modem, a extremely strong wifi<br>
access point, a custom made PoE injector (PoE out of both ports!) all<br>
inside a plastic box with lid and Noisebridge stickers all over it. The<br>
thing connects to a 12V car battery.<br>
<br>
Anyhow, others can try to get it back, if not hardware is cheap and time<br>
isn't. We can put together another one.<br>
<br>
--<br>
Rubin<br>
<a href="mailto:rubin@starset.net">rubin@starset.net</a><br>
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Date: Wed, 7 Dec 2011 17:10:02 -0800 (PST)<br>
From: Jake <<a href="mailto:jake@spaz.org">jake@spaz.org</a>><br>
To: Rubin Abdi <<a href="mailto:rubin@starset.net">rubin@starset.net</a>><br>
Cc: <a href="mailto:hackupy-discuss@lists.hackerspaces.org">hackupy-discuss@lists.hackerspaces.org</a><br>
Subject: Re: [Hackupy-discuss] [Noisebridge-discuss] Reports from the<br>
ground of raid at jhp (fwd)<br>
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i can't believe we never put a GPS locator in the internet box.<br>
<br>
On Wed, 7 Dec 2011, Rubin Abdi wrote:<br>
<br>
> Jake wrote, On 2011-12-07 15:53:<br>
>> Also, whoever has information on the Clear modem, and the Picostations<br>
>> and stuff that was taken, should immediately contact the Department of<br>
>> Pubic Works of San Francisco and tell them that your property was<br>
>> taken. Make sure you are the only one claiming ownership of that<br>
>> equipment though.<br>
><br>
> So funny that, the Noisebridge internet box is still online and never<br>
> lost connection during the raid...<br>
><br>
> <a href="http://pony.noisebridge.net/~rubin110/occupysf/" target="_blank">http://pony.noisebridge.net/~rubin110/occupysf/</a><br>
><br>
> We're pretty sure the box didn't get removed from the camp before police<br>
> were able to kick everyone out or arrest those who were still waiting.<br>
> So our guesses are...<br>
><br>
> * Someone buried the box with a car battery<br>
> * The box with poorly tethered battery is in police custody<br>
> * DPW has all this<br>
> * It's in some garbage truck somewhere<br>
><br>
> If the police or DPW have the box, some how they were super careful not<br>
> to disconnect it from the janky bare wires I left Occupy with.<br>
><br>
> The internet box is basically a WiMax modem, a extremely strong wifi<br>
> access point, a custom made PoE injector (PoE out of both ports!) all<br>
> inside a plastic box with lid and Noisebridge stickers all over it. The<br>
> thing connects to a 12V car battery.<br>
><br>
> Anyhow, others can try to get it back, if not hardware is cheap and time<br>
> isn't. We can put together another one.<br>
><br>
> --<br>
> Rubin<br>
> <a href="mailto:rubin@starset.net">rubin@starset.net</a><br>
><br>
><br>
<br>
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Message: 5<br>
Date: Wed, 7 Dec 2011 17:12:24 -0800 (PST)<br>
From: Jake <<a href="mailto:jake@spaz.org">jake@spaz.org</a>><br>
To: "<a href="mailto:noisebridge-discuss@lists.noisebridge.net">noisebridge-discuss@lists.noisebridge.net</a>"<br>
<<a href="mailto:noisebridge-discuss@lists.noisebridge.net">noisebridge-discuss@lists.noisebridge.net</a>>,<br>
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Subject: [Hackupy-discuss] This Is What Revolution Looks Like<br>
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In light of the raid on Occupy San Francisco last night, i thought i'd<br>
post this again.<br>
<br>
This Is What Revolution Looks Like<br>
<br>
<a href="http://www.truthdig.com/report/item/this_is_what_revolution_looks_like_20111115/" target="_blank">http://www.truthdig.com/report/item/this_is_what_revolution_looks_like_20111115/</a><br>
<br>
By Chris Hedges<br>
<br>
Welcome to the revolution. Our elites have exposed their hand. They have<br>
nothing to offer. They can destroy but they cannot build. They can repress<br>
but they cannot lead. They can steal but they cannot share. They can talk<br>
but they cannot speak. They are as dead and useless to us as the<br>
water-soaked books, tents, sleeping bags, suitcases, food boxes and<br>
clothes that were tossed by sanitation workers Tuesday morning into<br>
garbage trucks in New York City. They have no ideas, no plans and no<br>
vision for the future.<br>
<br>
Our decaying corporate regime has strutted in Portland, Oakland and New<br>
York with their baton-wielding cops into a fool's paradise. They think<br>
they can clean up "the mess"-always employing the language of personal<br>
hygiene and public security-by making us disappear. They think we will all<br>
go home and accept their corporate nation, a nation where crime and<br>
government policy have become indistinguishable, where nothing in America,<br>
including the ordinary citizen, is deemed by those in power worth<br>
protecting or preserving, where corporate oligarchs awash in hundreds of<br>
millions of dollars are permitted to loot and pillage the last shreds of<br>
collective wealth, human capital and natural resources, a nation where the<br>
poor do not eat and workers do not work, a nation where the sick die and<br>
children go hungry, a nation where the consent of the governed and the<br>
voice of the people is a cruel joke.<br>
<br>
Get back into your cages, they are telling us. Return to watching the<br>
lies, absurdities, trivia and celebrity gossip we feed you in 24-hour<br>
cycles on television. Invest your emotional energy in the vast system of<br>
popular entertainment. Run up your credit card debt. Pay your loans. Be<br>
thankful for the scraps we toss. Chant back to us our phrases about<br>
democracy, greatness and freedom. Vote in our rigged political theater.<br>
Send your young men and women to fight and die in useless, unwinnable wars<br>
that provide corporations with huge profits. Stand by mutely as our<br>
bipartisan congressional supercommittee, either through consensus or<br>
cynical dysfunction, plunges you into a society without basic social<br>
services including unemployment benefits. Pay for the crimes of Wall<br>
Street.<br>
<br>
The rogues' gallery of Wall Street crooks, such as Lloyd Blankfein at<br>
Goldman Sachs, Howard Milstein at New York Private Bank & Trust, the media<br>
tycoon Rupert Murdoch, the Koch brothers and Jamie Dimon at JPMorgan Chase<br>
& Co., no doubt think it's over. They think it is back to the business of<br>
harvesting what is left of America to swell their personal and corporate<br>
fortunes. But they no longer have any concept of what is happening around<br>
them. They are as mystified and clueless about these uprisings as the<br>
courtiers at Versailles or in the Forbidden City who never understood<br>
until the very end that their world was collapsing. The billionaire mayor<br>
of New York, enriched by a deregulated Wall Street, is unable to grasp why<br>
people would spend two months sleeping in an open park and marching on<br>
banks. He says he understands that the Occupy protests are "cathartic" and<br>
"entertaining," as if demonstrating against the pain of being homeless and<br>
unemployed is a form of therapy or diversion, but that it is time to let<br>
the adults handle the affairs of state. Democratic and Republican mayors,<br>
along with their parties, have sold us out. But for them this is the<br>
beginning of the end.<br>
<br>
The historian Crane Brinton in his book "Anatomy of a Revolution" laid out<br>
the common route to revolution. The preconditions for successful<br>
revolution, Brinton argued, are discontent that affects nearly all social<br>
classes, widespread feelings of entrapment and despair, unfulfilled<br>
expectations, a unified solidarity in opposition to a tiny power elite, a<br>
refusal by scholars and thinkers to continue to defend the actions of the<br>
ruling class, an inability of government to respond to the basic needs of<br>
citizens, a steady loss of will within the power elite itself and<br>
defections from the inner circle, a crippling isolation that leaves the<br>
power elite without any allies or outside support and, finally, a<br>
financial crisis. Our corporate elite, as far as Brinton was concerned,<br>
has amply fulfilled these preconditions. But it is Brinton's next<br>
observation that is most worth remembering. Revolutions always begin, he<br>
wrote, by making impossible demands that if the government met would mean<br>
the end of the old configurations of power. The second stage, the one we<br>
have entered now, is the unsuccessful attempt by the power elite to quell<br>
the unrest and discontent through physical acts of repression.<br>
<br>
I have seen my share of revolts, insurgencies and revolutions, from the<br>
guerrilla conflicts in the 1980s in Central America to the civil wars in<br>
Algeria, the Sudan and Yemen, to the Palestinian uprising to the<br>
revolutions in East Germany, Czechoslovakia and Romania as well as the<br>
wars in the former Yugoslavia. George Orwell wrote that all tyrannies rule<br>
through fraud and force, but that once the fraud is exposed they must rely<br>
exclusively on force. We have now entered the era of naked force. The vast<br>
million-person bureaucracy of the internal security and surveillance state<br>
will not be used to stop terrorism but to try and stop us.<br>
<br>
Despotic regimes in the end collapse internally. Once the foot soldiers<br>
who are ordered to carry out acts of repression, such as the clearing of<br>
parks or arresting or even shooting demonstrators, no longer obey orders,<br>
the old regime swiftly crumbles. When the aging East German dictator Erich<br>
Honecker was unable to get paratroopers to fire on protesting crowds in<br>
Leipzig, the regime was finished. The same refusal to employ violence<br>
doomed the communist governments in Prague and Bucharest. I watched in<br>
December 1989 as the army general that the dictator Nicolae Ceausescu had<br>
depended on to crush protests condemned him to death on Christmas Day.<br>
Tunisia's Ben Ali and Egypt's Hosni Mubarak lost power once they could no<br>
longer count on the security forces to fire into crowds.<br>
<br>
The process of defection among the ruling class and security forces is<br>
slow and often imperceptible. These defections are advanced through a<br>
rigid adherence to nonviolence, a refusal to respond to police provocation<br>
and a verbal respect for the blue-uniformed police, no matter how awful<br>
they can be while wading into a crowd and using batons as battering rams<br>
against human bodies. The resignations of Oakland Mayor Jean Quan's<br>
deputy, Sharon Cornu, and the mayor's legal adviser and longtime friend,<br>
Dan Siegel, in protest over the clearing of the Oakland encampment are<br>
some of the first cracks in the edifice. "Support Occupy Oakland, not the<br>
1% and its government facilitators," Siegel tweeted after his resignation.<br>
<br>
There were times when I entered the ring as a boxer and knew, as did the<br>
spectators, that I was woefully mismatched. Ringers, experienced boxers in<br>
need of a tuneup or a little practice, would go to the clubs where<br>
semi-pros fought, lie about their long professional fight records, and toy<br>
with us. Those fights became about something other than winning. They<br>
became about dignity and self-respect. You fought to say something about<br>
who you were as a human being. These bouts were punishing, physically<br>
brutal and demoralizing. You would get knocked down and stagger back up.<br>
You would reel backward from a blow that felt like a cement block. You<br>
would taste the saltiness of your blood on your lips. Your vision would<br>
blur. Your ribs, the back of your neck and your abdomen would ache. Your<br>
legs would feel like lead. But the longer you held on, the more the crowd<br>
in the club turned in your favor. No one, even you, thought you could win.<br>
But then, every once in a while, the ringer would get overconfident. He<br>
would get careless. He would become a victim of his own hubris. And you<br>
would find deep within yourself some new burst of energy, some untapped<br>
strength and, with the fury of the dispossessed, bring him down. I have<br>
not put on a pair of boxing gloves for 30 years. But I felt this twinge of<br>
euphoria again in my stomach this morning, this utter certainty that the<br>
impossible is possible, this realization that the mighty will fall.<br>
<br>
<br>
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Message: 6<br>
Date: Thu, 08 Dec 2011 02:20:17 +0100<br>
From: Moritz Bartl <<a href="mailto:moritz@torservers.net">moritz@torservers.net</a>><br>
To: <a href="mailto:hackupy-discuss@lists.hackerspaces.org">hackupy-discuss@lists.hackerspaces.org</a><br>
Subject: Re: [Hackupy-discuss] [Noisebridge-discuss] Reports from the<br>
ground of raid at jhp (fwd)<br>
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On 08.12.2011 01:53, Rubin Abdi wrote:<br>
> The internet box is basically a WiMax modem, a extremely strong wifi<br>
> access point, a custom made PoE injector (PoE out of both ports!) all<br>
> inside a plastic box with lid and Noisebridge stickers all over it. The<br>
> thing connects to a 12V car battery.<br>
<br>
Do you have the exact setup documented somewhere?<br>
<br>
--<br>
Moritz Bartl<br>
<a href="https://www.torservers.net/" target="_blank">https://www.torservers.net/</a><br>
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Message: 7<br>
Date: Wed, 7 Dec 2011 17:20:57 -0800 (PST)<br>
From: Jake <<a href="mailto:jake@spaz.org">jake@spaz.org</a>><br>
To: <a href="mailto:hackupy-discuss@lists.hackerspaces.org">hackupy-discuss@lists.hackerspaces.org</a>, Jonathan Lassoff<br>
<<a href="mailto:jof@thejof.com">jof@thejof.com</a>><br>
Subject: Re: [Hackupy-discuss] [Noisebridge-discuss] Reports from the<br>
ground of raid at jhp (fwd)<br>
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> The internet box is basically a WiMax modem, a extremely strong wifi<br>
> access point, a custom made PoE injector (PoE out of both ports!) all<br>
> inside a plastic box with lid and Noisebridge stickers all over it. The<br>
> thing connects to a 12V car battery.<br>
><br>
> Anyhow, others can try to get it back, if not hardware is cheap and time<br>
> isn't. We can put together another one.<br>
><br>
> Rubin<br>
> <a href="mailto:rubin@starset.net">rubin@starset.net</a><br>
<br>
Yes, please someone do try to get it back. That someone will need the<br>
paperwork for the equipment, like receipts and account information for the<br>
clearmodem. If you have that stuff please give it to someone to try to<br>
get it back. Jof, do you want to contact the city and try to get it back?<br>
<br>
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