[Hacker-event-theory] Thoughts on the 30c3?
nick at nickfarr.org
Tue Feb 25 19:56:21 CET 2014
Could you elaborate as to what you meant by "too well organized"? I think
I gather the gist of your meaning, but a German audience might end up
laughing that off.
One key factor is that the Congress was huge and decentralized. Nobody in
the orga could wrap their head around it.
However, I'm really going to have to disagree with the event doing little
to encourage interaction. I thought the layout of the event naturally lent
itself to that, that everyone had to navigate through a somewhat confusing
hall--almost as if it was designed to encourage random interaction.
Yes, things were cramped, but there was something for everyone if you
managed to look for it--what more could have been done?
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On Tue, Feb 25, 2014 at 12:21 PM, Amran <amx109 at gmail.com> wrote:
> it was too well organised. even for experienced hackers, there was little
> agency, little creativity. i heard the same complaints re engels. zero
> the layout was terrible. some stages were just tucked away in spaces no
> one would go to.
> believe it or not, i found the lack of social space disappointing.
> hackerspace areas were crammed into one area. the 'hardware hall' was
> equally crammed and difficult to navigate.
> the event did little to encourage interaction. it also failed to present
> the history of our scene and culture to new people.
> when i asked the info desk on the process for feedback, they replied that
> they never had any do that before. crazy. i'll be sending a more cogent,
> less ranty breakdown to martin of infodesk fame.
> On Wed, Jan 8, 2014 at 12:43 PM, Eelco Hotting <eelco at hotting.nl> wrote:
>> I've been there and had a great time.
>> Spoke to a lot of people and attended a few big talks. Also, became an
>> Engel and did quite some shifts, to see how that compares to NL.
>> When talking to people I focussed on the subject of this mailinglist,
>> getting feedback on OHM2013, expectations for the future and insights on
>> the cultural and social changes in our community, in Germany, The
>> Netherlands and the UK.
>> I've learned a lot, especially on the relationship between the German and
>> Dutch community. Also, I've observed some general patterns in how the
>> community seems to develop due to the large influx of newcomers.
>> For CCC Congress it might become a problem that they grow so fast,
>> resulting in lack of individual agency and a starting detachment between
>> management and minions.
>> Lots to do based on the visit to Germany. For NL we'll write down the
>> things we learned and want to change, and will certainly share with this
>> list and others.
>> On 8 jan. 2014, at 08:16, Nick Farr <nick at nickfarr.org> wrote:
>> > Just to get the discussion back underway: Who was at the 30c3? What
>> > were your thoughts on the event?
>> > I have some other posts that I'm still stewing on myself...to be
>> > written when I catch up from the 30c3. ;)
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