[foodhackingbase] who is in to keep the ball rolling transfer of responsibilities and glory

Fri Mar 27 17:38:37 CET 2015

Hi all,
Thank you for your email Frantisek. I will go into more detail later, but I
for now want to emphasize that I'm only considering being the coordinator.
I haven't decided yet.
I'll get back to you all later :-)
Greetings,
Lotte

2015-03-27 13:28 GMT+01:00 Frantisek Algoldor Apfelbeck <
algoldor at foodhackingbase.org>:

> Hi to all and Lotte,
> I will answer in the text as ### hoping that more people will do so
> quickly so we can wrap up this one and set up the orga team for the CCC
> camp event. As mentioned before my phasing out is on, comments are comments
> and recommendations.
>
> On 2015-03-20 01:25, Cooking Roffa wrote:
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> Trying to push the ball a bit here to keep it rolling :-)
>> If I read it correctly the two main questions in Frantisek's email
>> are: who wants to be the FHB "main engine" and what are our "rules of
>> engagement" so I'll adress those two topics.
>>
>
> ### Yes these are my main questions.
>
>  "main engine"
>> I have been giving this a lot of thought. I really would like for the
>> FHB to be at CCC2015, and someone will have to take on the role as
>> "main engine" to make that happen. I'm considering to take up that
>> role, though I know that this can be quite demanding. Also, my only
>> experience with the FBH as one of the FHB folks is on 31C3.
>> I will most certainly need a lot if help if I would decide to do it.
>>
>
> ### If you willing to take up the job you got it seems to me, short and
> simple :-) now the disclaimers :-) :-). We need to prepare for the CCC camp
> in advance, later on the ground, run the event and wrap up after the event.
> The preparations during the spring and early summer can and I would suggest
> should be done within the orga team with people taking different roles as
> you suggested before on our wiki page dedicated to the event
>
> https://foodhackingbase.org/wiki/Chaos_Communication_Camp_2015
>
> I would recommend based on previous discussions with people and experience
> to try to establish "main orga" consisting of 2-4 people or so for the
> future events avoiding the "main coordinator" = one main person, that was
> major possible point of failure in the past with me. If that could be set
> good, if not well than we will have to have one person in charge as before
> and in this case you and we will see in the future. To my knowledge at the
> current moment Lotte is the only person who is considering to be full time
> around fhb on the ground, can promise under "reasonable conditions" to be
> there = really can make it to the camp, was involved with fhb before at
> 31c3 a lot and knows already several people from the group. This means that
> at the moment she is the only one to who can actually be the "main" person
> on the ground, so if that stays "she got the position" right? :-) No one
> objected so far. Now note from me - if I can come and Lotte is willing to
> collaborate (which we have to discuss everybody has different style etc.),
> I'll be happy to be another "main orga person" involved on the ground. For
> preparations I'm definitely in if people are OK with that. However as
> voiced before I think my main task should be to phase out sooner or later
> becoming one of the many and I do not and should not be any longer "the one
> main person". Still this event if I can be around I want to be involved
> fully hoping that I can skip 32c3 leaving fhb to get more independent and
> sustainable based on the people involved but the process of transition
> started already. Lets be honest camp is fun and I do not want to miss it in
> a big way :-)
>
>  So before I decide I would like to have some input from you.
>>
>> First and foremost: would you be ok with me being "main engine"? And
>> please: no polite answers here.
>>
>
> ### No one objected = yes. For the preparations are you OK to be one of
> the main orga? On the ground you are the only one to be the main person at
> the moment, I'm happy to couple with you if I can make it and you are OK
> with that. However so far you would be the "one" congratulations.
>
>  If so, my other questions are:
>>
>>         * Is anyone else interested in being "main engine"?
>>
>
> ### One of the cylinders yes, no longer the whole engine applies to the
> future events too.
>
>         * Would you like to participate in organising FHB on CCC2015 and if
>
>> so, what role would you see for yourself? Will you be available for
>> helping out before the event also and if so, what would you prefer to
>> do?
>>
>
> ### I'll update the wiki concerning the positions which I'm into. So far I
> can promise two to three months of being one of the main orga helping to
> organize for the event, taking up what necessary and several other jobs
> which I'm into. Examples may be getting in touch with people who I know
> they did workshops with us before and asking them about their participation
> at CCC camp, making list of their contacts, well the things which I did
> before and I enjoyed. No finances for me please, not treasurer, I still
> need to transfer funds to Marcel ...
>
>  (please check the roles I put on the wiki, it might be a bit overdone
>> for our small group but I think it would help the new "main engine" to
>> know who will be available for what
>> https://foodhackingbase.org/wiki/Chaos_Communication_Camp_2015#Team_Meta
>> [3])
>>
>
> ### The "jobs" will clear itself up during time we just need to fill it up
> and start to work on that.
>
>  "rules of engagement"
>> For me it goes without saying that "be excellent to each other" should
>> be our main rule. I'm not sure if it should be the only rule, but
>> that's because I am not sure what we consider "rules". For example,
>> one of the things I have been thinking about is to make a simple set
>> of 'rules' for non FHB folks who want to do something in the FHB (be
>> that organising a workshop, cooking, or something else). We might not
>> want to call those rules though.
>>
>
> ### I took that one from my involvement at Noisebridge at San Francisco
> and personal experience. I called that rule and the rest guidelines to make
> distinction of what we are really insisting on and what we are considering
> to "discuss". How we continue is up to the group, definitely more
> "guidelines" and better structure is necessary. We should put together and
> discuss what these guidelines should be.
>
>  And yes, I would very much like to continue the consensus style of
>> decisions.
>>
>
> ### Lovely, happy :-)
>
>  So please let me know your thoughts and give the ball a little push
>> :-)
>>
>
> ### Did my homework, at lest the first part I hope.
>
>  Greetings from Rotterdam,
>>
>> Lotte
>>
>
> ### Hope to see Rotterdam in the summer, enjoy it,
>
> ### From Jeju greets,
>
> ### Frantisek
>
> ### PS Cut down the recipients so it doesn't end up with me as the list
> moderator - well or Christian, he newly volunteered :-)
>
>  2015-03-13 13:11 GMT+01:00 Frantisek Algoldor Apfelbeck
>> <algoldor at foodhackingbase.org>:
>>
>>  Hi to all,
>>> in a simple words the time has come when the transformation of Food
>>> Hacking Base (fhb) organization is needed. I've invited many of you
>>> in the past to become more active and take your "share of glory", by
>>> "formal personal invitations". Things started to become much more
>>> group run in the past, now it's time to complete the process with me
>>> stepping aside from the position of "main engine" desiring to become
>>> "one of the many" fhb folks. As some of you know, I may not be able
>>> to attend CCC camp because of issues here in Korea (ask me for more
>>> info if you need it), the situation will clear up by May or June
>>> latest. Till than we need to prepare like I may not be there in the
>>> summer and possibly later.
>>>
>>> I would like actively help to transfer my share of knowledge,
>>> experience, contacts etc. to the group. It is not really essential
>>> to be honest it is rather for my good feeling and "happy
>>> continuation" and well I want to see that we can do it the nice way.
>>> From the beginning of this project I hoped that I can become one
>>> day, sooner better, "one of the many" involved, rather than "the
>>> one" which is as it started. There will be some hurts during this
>>> process because in a way it is partly my baby, however it grew into
>>> something much more by work of you, it was done together. It seems
>>> to me that soon I should take deliberately time off for event or two
>>> to complete this process, that was the plan for few years already
>>> and now a must maybe.
>>>
>>> I would like to ask if the formal style of "be excellent to each
>>> other" as our only rule or guideline if you like is OK with the
>>> others? Next would be the agreement or likeness to continue with
>>> consensus style of decisions which we exercised since OHM2013 within
>>> the orga (people involved with preparations) group. What do you
>>> think about these two points which I personally took as of main
>>> importance for me?
>>>
>>> I've some suggestions to make concerning the transition process,
>>> how to shape the things etc. but I'll wait for the others to talk
>>> first and my input will come later on.
>>>
>>> Please check the page which Lotte made on our wiki it is to become
>>> road map for the CCC camp 2015 and hopefully template for our next
>>> events.
>>>
>>> https://foodhackingbase.org/wiki/Chaos_Communication_Camp_2015 [1]
>>>
>>> Edit, comment, post to the mailing list, use our IRC channel,
>>> Facebook group, get involved in other words.
>>>
>>> Talk to you all soon and please keep the ball rolling!
>>>
>>> Sincerely from Jeju,
>>>
>>> Frantisek
>>>
>>> --
>>> Frantisek Algoldor Apfelbeck
>>>
>>> biotechnologist&kvasir and hacker
>>>
>>> http://www.frantisekapfelbeck.org [2]
>>>
>>> "There is no way to peace, peace is the way." Mohandas Karamchand
>>> Gandhi
>>>
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>>
>>
>>
>> Links:
>> ------
>> [1] https://foodhackingbase.org/wiki/Chaos_Communication_Camp_2015
>> [2] http://www.frantisekapfelbeck.org
>> [3] https://foodhackingbase.org/wiki/Chaos_Communication_Camp_
>> 2015#Team_Meta
>>
>
> --
> Frantisek Algoldor Apfelbeck
>
> biotechnologist&kvasir and hacker
>
> http://www.frantisekapfelbeck.org
>
> "There is no way to peace, peace is the way." Mohandas Karamchand Gandhi
>
>
> Disclaimer - there are other people who have access to this email account,
> please be aware of that it is part of the design. For "highly private
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