[foodhackingbase] edgeryders suggestions for 31c3 comment please

[Frantisek Algoldor Apfelbeck]

By the way something what I forgot to mention or did not emphasized to 
Nadia and also others who joined us recently (or are considering :-)). 
"workshops" or "self-organized session" are a way how to get funds for 
your personal needs. You think of something what you want to share with 
others, make a self-organized session, discuss the timing and needs and 
the contributions are yours. So far we generally suggested to split with 
FHB some of the profit leaving however on the people and their needs the 
amounts. I think this worked well for us in the past. We were able to 
get 50-100 eu on workshop, sometimes more depends how much one promote, 
how many people come and what are the expenses ...

Hope it helps,

Sincerely,

FAA

On 2014-12-05 11:43, Frantisek Algoldor Apfelbeck wrote:
> Hi Nadia and all,
> I hope it is OK that I've copied nadias post which she mentioned on
> Food Hacking Base (fhb) Facebook page, she represents the Edgeryders
> group. I've added comments as ### into the text.
> 
> Nadia's post:
> 1. Cutting/ serving surface, knives, potato peelers, buckets or paper
> bags, and pieces of board/wood to serve ingredients on
> 
> ### we have most of this from previous fhb events, can get the pieces
> which we are missing in second hand shops before the event. I'll pick
> up our stuff around 16th of December so I'll update the info what we
> have - partly forgot by myeslf
> 
> 2. 10-12m table with white cover:  Main space devoting to creating,
> curiosity, creativity, playing, and mingling to encourage conversation
> around specific aspects of well-being.
> 
> ### How big tables we make depends on the materials which we get and
> our floor space (and crowdsourcing campaign sucess). Last year we had
> three tables around 3 m long I think 80 cm wide and 1 m high -
> workshop tables, thick wood (present from 31c3 orga :-)), we gave them
> away after the event ... One was dedicated to the "experimental
> kitchen", two workshop area. We had several usual desk folding tables
> provided for free from the orga for presenting our creations and to
> sit around (plus chairs, same source). We should get bit bigger this
> year but first we need to know how much space we are going to have, so
> lest keep this in mind and wait a bit for the data from the orga.
> Everyone please keep in mind we need many shelfs, we had really big
> problem last year to keep things organized there it was hell to find
> anything - did not have proper shelving system.
> 
> 3. Projector & speakers:  Displaying what "session" it currently is.
> Close-up shots of ingredients, and mixed with visuals related to the
> different aspects of well-being and questions.
> 
> ### Projector would be LOVELY! We do not have one to use for the
> event, neither the speakers. Please be careful about music or audio in
> general at CCC congresses, it is tricky, assemblies are discouraged to
> have them because they are very close to each other and it would make
> quite some "echo around". Camps are different story, like I hope you
> will see this summer on CCC camp in August. Still speakers would be
> nice anyway .
> 
> **these are optional and depend on if people are willing to help make
> them happen + resources.
> 
> ### I'll ask around some hackerspaces if they can share them with us
> for the event.
> 
> 4. *Documentation: A camera on the ceiling takes top view time-lapse
> shots of the table during the whole session.
> 
> ### Sounds great but we need to check this with others because many
> hackers are very careful about being cought on media in any manner. I
> know Webmind who is with us is not happy with that from the top of my
> head and I'm sure some people who would like to pop in for workshop
> etc. If we agree to do this - at least for parts of the event for
> example, we need to make clear posters/signes saying so. This is
> really touchy for some people and there are whole areas in the
> congress where "you do not take pictures" by default.
> 
> 5. *Custom made notebooks: For writing reflections and recipes. We
> collect them before people leave.
> 
> ### Very good idea, could you elaborate? Design, material cost etc.
> Online notebook would be good, had it last year here
> 
> https://events.ccc.de/congress/2013/wiki/AssemblyInfo:Food_Hacking_Base/notes_on_the_event
> 
> but nothing in because we had major issue to edit 31c3 wiki - maybe we
> should make it on our fhb wiki
> 
> 
> 6. *Customised aprons: Well it would be cool, wouldn't it? And it's
> something we all use after so no waste.
> 
> ### This is great idea, want to have it every year and we never make
> it. Usual aprins with logos of our groups would be amazing, I believe
> people who are in vinyl cutting or how they call it could help on
> this. Anyone in the group? There will be vinyl cutter machines around
> the congress I'm sure if we do not make this in advance so we need
> just to put asside cash for aprins. Anyone knows how much they are?
> Cheap but decent material versus good organic fair trade cotton?
> 
> 7.  * Light & Sound: Ideally we would have different light and sound
> during each session- this is nice, not absolutely necessary...
> C. Supplies needed (and where to get them/cost) | How to cover the 
> costs
> 
> ### Lights need to be "sharp enough" so we can work properly with
> sharp objects etc. :-) Sound as mentioned lets be carefull about that
> ... What the others think? I'll be too busy to help with this I'm
> afraid ...
> 
> 1. Ingredients for food: 100 ingredients to be proposed by #31C3
> participants? Secured from food waste reuse collectives?
> 
> ### Ingredients list has to be updated and well uploaded on the first
> place. Not sure about 100 but yes we will need quite selection and as
> in the last years we move from quantity towards quality, so organic,
> fair trade if budget allows. Waste reuse would be nice but I do not
> have any contacts in Hamburg on organziations in this field, maybe
> Alexander knows someone? We need to be careful about expiration dates
> etc. I'll take care about the draft of the ingredient list over the
> weekend and open it to comments and editing.
> 
> 2. 10-12m stretch of table & 30m of white cloth to cover them
> 
> ### For the working tables I would recommend washable surfaces, no
> cover as before we can get some wight playwood surface, or wood,
> depends on cost and resources. For the tables provided by orga we
> definetely need to cover them well. I beleive Marcel is on the top of
> the PE material which we want to use for flooring. Would it be food
> safe for tables too?
> 
> 3. Knives, potato peelers & cutting surface (ideally long stretch of
> wood on a table/stand)
> 
> ### We have that, done.
> 
> 4. Projector and white surface to project on
> 
> ### both missing would love that, lets ask around OK?
> 
> 5. Talk to me bubbles & Recipe sheets to fill in
> 
> ### ohh yes recipes, should be filled up as much as possible before
> the event, during it's crazy (and internet etc. may not work as one
> predicts, not enough terminal to work on you name it ...).
> 
> 6. Garbage bags and paper napkins
> 
> ### Will get that if we don't have it already.
> 
> ***
> 
> 7. *Aprons if we can get bulk for cheap.
> 
> ### Would be lovely, do you have any lead? Anyone to take this on? It
> is important thing.
> 
> 8. *Camera & way to mount it on top of table
> 
> ### As said before nice idea but lest be careful and discuss that
> first I will try to bring usual small camera with me, I hope someone
> will get niceer one.
> 
> Budget: <1500 Euros
> 
> List of ingredients: budget must be < 500 Euros for 4 "meals"
> 
> ### Will be started/transfered and added within next few daysby me
> (Algoldor) and opened to editing. Lets not talk about "meals" rather
> about tasting, epxerimental food hacking etc. Sharing food within the
> group was fine in the past. We will see abou the budgeting based on
> the crowdsourcing campaign. Things may change a lot depending if we
> for example can get some hands on spare material after the 31c3 orga
> finishes their build up - hundreds of euro safed if that happens.
> 
> List of other materials and supplies: budget must be < 300 Euros
> 
> ### List of equipment etc.is here
> 
> https://events.ccc.de/congress/2014/wiki/AssemblyInfo:Food_Hacking_Base/Gear,_Tools_and_Ingredients
> 
> ### has to be updated
> 
> Cookbook design and layout: 300 Eur.
> 
> ### Bit worried about our quality time during the event to accomplish 
> that ...
> 
> Fundraising
> 
> 1. Through crowdfunding: FHB already has crowdfunding campaign on
> IndieGogo, maybe we could support them and if more money than needed
> by them comes in it can cover some of our costs?
> 
> ### Sounds good, we need to think if we use just one budget and take
> whatever we need for whatever activitiese - was done like that before,
> worked quite fine. Or if we somehow donate together or bring funds and
> after that split - would be bit harder to organize ... If someone
> needed extra cash to cover travel costs or ticket (like sometimes me
> for example), they were encouraged to organize some event where people
> could come and support for that means directly. I think it worked for
> example quite well for Brabo at OHM2013.
> 
> 2. Donation box on location
> 
> ### So far we had several for fhb, we need to think about sharing the
> costs and splitting the rewards :-) In the past we kept money left
> from previous events for the next ones (have over 350 eu on my PayPal
> which is frozen for nearly a year - will bring it in cash I hope
> before the event by myself). Before, during and at the end event we
> make a list of expenses which we want to claim as "participants" like
> costs of ingredients brought and if everything goes well we would
> cover them - generally the case so far. After doing so we were left
> with 500-1000 eu at the end clean in the Food Hacking Base budget,
> depedning on the event. We do not make too much money on the events, I
> hope we do better so we can support our project during the year more.
> However it was mostly about promotion of what we do and getting people
> involved so far.
> 
> 3. Sales of Aprons at markup.
> 
> ### Sounds good to me, there are commercial vendors on the event and
> you should have licence I think but "suggested donation" for an aprin
> should be fine.
> 
> ### Well I hope that I helped, please others comment and suggest! If I
> forgot something please let me know.
> 
> ### Sincerely,
> 
> ### FAA
> 
> --
> Frantisek Algoldor Apfelbeck
> 
> biotechnologist&kvasir and hacker
> 
> http://www.frantisekapfelbeck.org
> 
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