[Foodhacking_at_camp] updates - running water, septic tank

[Frantisek Apfelbeck]

When I was volunteering at the last CCC conference last December I've found out 
that if you put out for example peeled oranges to the food section for the 
volunteers at any given time, they would disappear within several minutes, I 
would say half an hour max. If you left several unpeeled oranges in the bowl in 
the evening, you would find around 60-80% of them still there in the morning. It 
was a magical eye opener for me. I guess for more easily eatable fruits etc. 
people will take care about them so your model should work to a degree. What I'm 
a b it worried about is the fate of the knives and cutting boards which they 
will use for the preparation ...

Please do not take me as pessimist but I've seen what the people and hackers 
especially are able to do to the food if you let them. So such ideas like "you 
add you dressing as you like" the same with sauces, cheeses etc. are mostly a 
matter of past to me if I serve for larger public which is not very food 
sensitive (and do not take me badly but many hackers have a terrible food diets 
which makes our work even more important). These days I generally tent to 
prepare nearly everything to the final stage and serve it. It is decreasing your 
choice how to flavour the food but there were so many fuck ups ... 


Anyway I'm sure that we will try to be nice and let see what is going to happen. 
The "dummy" options are quite easy to apply at any time. 


Sincerely,

Frantisek  



----- Original Message ----
From: mAcfreAk <macfreak109 at gmail.com>
To: Frantisek Apfelbeck <algoldor at yahoo.com>
Sent: Tue, July 26, 2011 9:06:16 PM
Subject: Re: [Foodhacking_at_camp] updates - running water, septic tank

On 26 juil. 2011, at 15:57, Frantisek Apfelbeck wrote:
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: mAcfreAk <macfreak109 at gmail.com>
> To: Frantisek Apfelbeck <algoldor at yahoo.com>
> Cc: Food Hacking at Camp 2011 <foodhacking_at_camp at lists.hackerspaces.org>; 
>Nick 
>
> Farr <nick at nickfarr.org>
> Sent: Mon, July 25, 2011 6:48:07 PM
> Subject: Re: [Foodhacking_at_camp] updates - running water, septic tank
> 
> Hey guys'n'gals!
> [snip]
> -The fruits and Müsli should be prepared in a matter of _cold_ buffet, so the 
> main Müsli mix in the middle, fresh fruit surrounding the latter. As such, 
> people can take the fruits they like best and cut them into their bowls. In 
>that 
>
> way, we won't  unnecessarily waste lots of fruits and they can be represented 
> the following day(s).
> _cold_ meaning that it would rock if we had some ice or cooling buffet 
> there...I'm not sure about the weather in Berlin, but it certainly promises to 

> be hot in August.
> 
>>> sounds good. I would be just careful with the fruit mix. If you put the fruit 
>
>>> separate there, you will kind of run out of blueberries, strawberries, 
>>>pineapple 
>>>
>>> etc. very fast. If you mix it all together it lasts longer but someone will 
>>>have 
>>>
>>> to skip it. We can try the separate options and see how it goes? 

Certainly, but if we pre-mix it, there might be trouble as not everyone likes 
all fruit sorts. I'd prefer it stay raw and users can cut it in their müsli as 
needed. As such, you can put up a bowl of strawberries (for example) and 
everyone takes 2-3 for his/her bowl. The rest stays untouched and can be kept 
for the following day. Or am I too idealistic with that thought? ;-)

> So for your shopping list there would be: 
> - fresh fruits
> - more Apples (pref. red ones, a bit sweeter)
> - event. procellaine/glas bowls of a contents of +- 40/50cl
>>> plastic and maybe more than 50, let say 70

OK, let me check on the paper ones. They are more environmental friendly and I 
can get some large quantities (I have xs to a pro food department store)

> - sunflower seeds (about 1kg)
> - flaxseed (about 1kg)
> - diff sorts of nuts (also around 1-2 kg)
> 
>>> all sounds good

Great! :-)

> Sushi
> ---------
> If I understood well, I'll be preparing Sushi on my own and people wanting to 
> learn the stuff simply join the fun? 
> 
> I'm going to write a "Sushi for Hackers" guide (hopefully before CCC) which 
>I'll 
>
> publish on syn2cat's pages and (if I finish on time) will also bring some 
> printed copies to carry away.
> 
>>> You can prepare the sushi also with other food hackers but if you take it as a 
>>
>>> workshop than it would be the way who joins is in. Manual is great idea.

OK, I'll see this on the spot. I'm very flexible concerning the form of the 
workshop...

> So, in order to fill up the buffet, I will start doing Sushi around 11h00, 
>it'll 
>
> take about 45 min/1 hour before everybody can get to work and produce some 
> Sushi. Some pieces will be certainly going "missing in action" (i.e. eaten by 
> their producers) but most of it should survive to the buffet. So I count that 
> around 12h30, we will have about 2-3 kg of rice, meaning about 200 Sushis ready 
>
> for consumtion.
> I shall repeat this workshop at least twice, if I'm really good mooded (depends 
>
> a lot on my sleep), every day...
> 
>>> Sounds good. How long do you think the sushi stays OK if kept cold? 24-48 
>>> hours? I've a bad experience with the nori getting kind of mushi quite pretty 
>
>>> fast ...

Normally, when kept cold adequately, you can eat my Sushi for 3 days. If it got 
too hot (the smell will tell), trash it...

> Nearly all of the ingredients will be bought by myself as I have tested several 
>
> brands and I want to bring those with which I had best results. So, the fish 
> will come from Hamburg (we'll be there the day before camp) as I can't be any 
> fresher and the other stuff, I'll manage myself. 
> 
> 
>>> Sounds good. Please keep the bills so you can be reimbursed for your shopping. 
>>
>>> Could you project how much do you think you will spend, so we see if it is 
>>> realistic? (I think it should be fine). 

I'll have to see how much fish comes. This depends on the region. As I'm gonna 
buy it close to directly from the distributer in Hamburg, I guess it won't be 
that expensive.
All other materials is not so expensive. I'll check on everything and give you 
an estimate ASAP.


> -> Oh, another maybe important question : Is there a rice-cooker at the 
> foodhacking tents? If yes...how much can it prepare and how long does it take?
> And if not, I might be taking one form my own...it's simpler to prepare the 
>rice 
>
> in one of those.
> 
>>> If you can bring rice cooker that would be great! Let me know what do you think 
>>>
>>> and if you decide to bring it could you post it to the wish list with your 
>>> initials and sign - bringing, date

OK, I'll add my rice cooker then to the list.

[snip]
>>> I'm looking forward to meet you in person! I think that this is going to be 
>>> "crazy" but a lots of fun!


Yeah...crazy hits it pretty well :-D

Cheers!

mAcfreAk.
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