[Foodhacking_at_camp] updates - running water, septic tank

Frantisek Apfelbeck algoldor at yahoo.com
Tue Jul 26 15:57:14 CEST 2011 




----- Original Message ----
From: mAcfreAk <macfreak109 at gmail.com>
To: Frantisek Apfelbeck <algoldor at yahoo.com>
Cc: Food Hacking at Camp 2011 <foodhacking_at_camp at lists.hackerspaces.org>; Nick 
Farr <nick at nickfarr.org>
Sent: Mon, July 25, 2011 6:48:07 PM
Subject: Re: [Foodhacking_at_camp] updates - running water, septic tank

Hey guys'n'gals!

Just to give a short update for the breakfast and Sushi stuff...with some 
questions ;-) Sorry about the looooooong mail :-/

General questions
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- Is the running water consumable/drinkable? Or do I need to plan bringing some 
drinking water to prepare my dishes (i.e. the Müsli wheat must be watered for a 
few hours)?

Breakfast
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- At what time should breakfast start?
- For my Müsli (in german Frischkornbrei) [note : No, it's not Bircher-Benner], 
I would need some fresh fruit, origins don't matter, as long as it's fresh :-). 
So, if you could put some on your shopping list, that'd be great! However, I 
would love to see lots of Apples as this is the basis fruit for the Müsli mix. 


>> we will have a lots of fruits, it is going to be probably quite hot so it will 
>>be nice and refreshing, nutritional option. 
>>

- Also needed for the Müsli is sweet cream (the one you use when you wanna 
prepare whipped cream), and lots of. Yes, Müsli *does* contain calories ;-) (But 
it also covers around 70% of nutritional values for the day).

>> sweet cream is good idea. There will be for sure life yoghurt culture available 
>>too which may help to preserve the sweet cream so it goes "bad" in the right way 
>>==> sour cream. But everyone to his/her own.

- I'll bring my own "prepared" wheat myself, so no extras here.
- Addons : to make Müsli more tasteful, I add some local seeds which are mainly 
sunflower seeds and flaxseed (Leinsamen). Some nuts would do well too...peacan 
nuts, walnuts, or any other kind which is available there.

>> same here, seeds are great idea, filling and nutritional, we will get them

- Serving : As the Müsli should be served in a bowl of some kind, it would be 
great if we had some of those as well. Now, I don't know how it is with dishes 
@CCC, but I'd prefer some porcellaine or glass ones (hmmm....those do break, 
however) but plastic or maybe paper does the trick as well. If necessary, I 
could buy some and will offer those to our space afer camp. I guess we'd need at 
least 40 of them, so that we don't get in a tight course when serving Müsli 2 
days in a row. Should you run into trouble finding some, I can have a look for 
paper ones, those don't crap up environment as much. Just drop me a note (but 
please before August 3rd ;-) )!

>> we should use plastic reusable bowls, plates, glasses and cutlery. I would not 
>>risk glass and ceramic even if I prefer them, it is too dangerous.

-The fruits and Müsli should be prepared in a matter of _cold_ buffet, so the 
main Müsli mix in the middle, fresh fruit surrounding the latter. As such, 
people can take the fruits they like best and cut them into their bowls. In that 
way, we won't  unnecessarily waste lots of fruits and they can be represented 
the following day(s).
_cold_ meaning that it would rock if we had some ice or cooling buffet 
there...I'm not sure about the weather in Berlin, but it certainly promises to 
be hot in August.

>> sounds good. I would be just careful with the fruit mix. If you put the fruit 
>>separate there, you will kind of run out of blueberries, strawberries, pineapple 
>>etc. very fast. If you mix it all together it lasts longer but someone will have 
>>to skip it. We can try the separate options and see how it goes? 
>>


So for your shopping list there would be: 
- fresh fruits
- more Apples (pref. red ones, a bit sweeter)
- event. procellaine/glas bowls of a contents of +- 40/50cl
>> plastic and maybe more than 50, let say 70
- sunflower seeds (about 1kg)
- flaxseed (about 1kg)
- diff sorts of nuts (also around 1-2 kg)

>> all sounds good


Sushi
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If I understood well, I'll be preparing Sushi on my own and people wanting to 
learn the stuff simply join the fun? 

I'm going to write a "Sushi for Hackers" guide (hopefully before CCC) which I'll 
publish on syn2cat's pages and (if I finish on time) will also bring some 
printed copies to carry away.

>> You can prepare the sushi also with other food hackers but if you take it as a 
>>workshop than it would be the way who joins is in. Manual is great idea.

So, in order to fill up the buffet, I will start doing Sushi around 11h00, it'll 
take about 45 min/1 hour before everybody can get to work and produce some 
Sushi. Some pieces will be certainly going "missing in action" (i.e. eaten by 
their producers) but most of it should survive to the buffet. So I count that 
around 12h30, we will have about 2-3 kg of rice, meaning about 200 Sushis ready 
for consumtion.
I shall repeat this workshop at least twice, if I'm really good mooded (depends 
a lot on my sleep), every day...

>> Sounds good. How long do you think the sushi stays OK if kept cold? 24-48 
>>hours? I've a bad experience with the nori getting kind of mushi quite pretty 
>>fast ...

Nearly all of the ingredients will be bought by myself as I have tested several 
brands and I want to bring those with which I had best results. So, the fish 
will come from Hamburg (we'll be there the day before camp) as I can't be any 
fresher and the other stuff, I'll manage myself. 


>> Sounds good. Please keep the bills so you can be reimbursed for your shopping. 
>>Could you project how much do you think you will spend, so we see if it is 
>>realistic? (I think it should be fine). 
>>

-> Oh, another maybe important question : Is there a rice-cooker at the 
foodhacking tents? If yes...how much can it prepare and how long does it take?
And if not, I might be taking one form my own...it's simpler to prepare the rice 
in one of those.

>> If you can bring rice cooker that would be great! Let me know what do you think 
>>and if you decide to bring it could you post it to the wish list with your 
>>initials and sign - bringing, date

http://events.ccc.de/camp/2011/wiki/Wish_list_of_food_hacking_equipment

--- end of long talk ;-) -------

OK, so enough talk from me, I hope I didn't miss sth here, otherwise, I'll post 
it on the ML and to the Wiki as needed.

Thanks for having me and I'm reaaaaaaaally looking forward to this ;-)))

Cheers!

mAcfreAk.

>> I'm looking forward to meet you in person! I think that this is going to be 
>>"crazy" but a lots of fun!

Sincerely,

Frantisek


On 24 juil. 2011, at 15:23, Frantisek Apfelbeck wrote:

> Hello!
> I've got really good news. We are going to have running water and direct access 
>
> to septic tank! Thanks to the ccc organizers and Jeedi especially!
> 
> For anyone familiar with "big scale coking" this is a major achievement, I'm 
> very relieved. Of course now is question what is going to be the pressure of 
>the 
>
> water, how we set up the washing station, sinks maybe dish wash machine etc. 
> Lot's of these things will have to be decided and sorted on the spot, but I'll 

> be in from 3th/8 so there should be enough time.
> 
> Talk to you soon,
> 
> Sincerely,
> 
> Frantisek
> 
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