[hackerspaces] Fwd: Yet We Were Feminists

[Matt Joyce]

It always amazes me how wildly differently some folks view hackerspaces and
their function.


Sign of both good art and a good tool is that people take away from it
things you never intended or thought of.

Neat *sips coffee*

On Tue, Mar 31, 2020, 5:57 AM hellekin <hellekin at hackerspaces.org> wrote:

> A much kinder reply than mine from the author.
>
>
> -------- Forwarded Message --------
> Subject: Re: [hackerspaces] Yet We Were Feminists
> Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2020 12:18:58 +0200
> From: natacha <natacha at lesoiseaux.io> <natacha at lesoiseaux.io>
> To: Antonio Caciuc <antonio.caciuc at gmail.com> <antonio.caciuc at gmail.com>
> CC: hellekin <how at zoethical.com> <how at zoethical.com>
>
> Dear Antonio,
>
> I reply to you since I am not on the hackerspace mailing list, if you want
> to forward my mail, its all fine with me.
>
> I did not know this texts is not directly talking about capitalism but its
> ok if you understand it like this. What this article intends to say is that
> in times of crisis civil society initiatives seem to be of utermost
> importance such aspeople who heal or hackerspaces who take on their own
> responsibilty to produce protective material for carers (since minimum was
> not ensured by those who take decisions). Yet the people who take over
> those responsibility do not seem to have any voice when it comes to take
> decisions.
>
> And possibly their voices would be much more usefull to us right now then
> the voices of the people in power who take over our democracies right now.
>
> The last phrase you are citing comes from the latest Mbembe book
> "Brutalism", its an amazing understanding of technological society seen
> from Africa, and does use the notion of vibratory act to signify the
> possibility of action despite direct access to power, you can find very
> similar notions in Karen Barad writings about diffraction, both Barad and
> Mbembe are important and recognized scholars that should be read when
> discussing technology.
>
> natacha
>
>
> On 3/31/20 11:49 AM, Antonio Caciuc wrote:
>
> Sorry, but I'm not sure I understand the point of the article beyond
> "capitalism is bad".
>
> I think hackerspaces are by themselves a political statement against some
> aspects of capitalism, but this article doesn't say anything useful or
> interesting.
> What does "a vibratory act, which straddles and exceeds the given and its
> constraints" mean anyway?
>
> You're right about one thing, though. We should limit the spread of this
> nonsense the same way were trying to limit the spread of the virus.
>
> Soignez-vous bien!
>
> On Tue, Mar 31, 2020 at 11:45 AM hellekin <hellekin at hackerspaces.org>
> wrote:
>
>> Hackerspaces are mentioned briefly in this firebrand text, on the
>> forefront of self-organizing production of alternate DIY medical supplies.
>>
>> https://ps.zoethical.org/t/yet-we-were-feminists/3477
>>
>> Also available in Spanish at
>> https://ps.zoethical.org/t/ya-estabamos-feministas/3478
>>
>> (Please, if it's your native language, help check the translation
>> against the French original below)
>>
>> https://ps.zoethical.org/t/pourtant-nous-etions-feministes/3476
>>
>> The author is Cced. Spread widely like the coronavirus!
>>
>>
>> ==
>> hk
>>
>>
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