[hackerspaces] Lockers in a hackerspace?
ebal at fsfe.org
ebal at fsfe.org
Mon Oct 8 15:02:59 CEST 2018
There are clearly some advantages & disadvantages of having lockers
inside a hackerspace.
[personal true pseudo-random thoughts - plz excuse me]
I wish I could leave my laptop for a few hours or even a personal item
inside a locker and I do understand that a locker is not safety deposit
box but it is better that leaving my laptop on a table and walkaway. On
the other hand, personal lockers takes physical space from a
hackerspace (if you dont have much space) and people will leave personal
items for days. Time-based locks (are expensive) could be used (like in
two hours or two days the locker will auto-unlock) but then you are a
time-sharing locker. Also a deposit for locks (like some hostel do)
could be a solution. Long-Term abandonment could also be solved with
color stickers ! A week-notice, a 3s notice, a day notice and then
locker will be unlocked! Useful workshop: 'lock picking' . Or even
create a master key (aka a backdoor key) that admins could use only for
emergencies. One other thing is the "open" policy, lockers suggest that
'you have something to hide' :P I mean you are a part of a
hackerspace so (circle of) trust should be something that you
apply/comply (I dont know, perhaps) ? To continue this delirium, I am
not against lockers but you should think and document everything and
people should respect your policy if they want a locker inside your
hackerspace.
On 05-Oct-18 02:35, Nate Bezanson wrote:
> At i3Detroit in Michigan, we have both shelves and lockers. Here are
> my thoughts:
>
> The shelves are a catastrophe. We wanted to give people more
> flexibility than totes, but it turns out not everyone is clean and
> responsible, and there's detritus everywhere and organizational logjam
> about getting rid of what might be someone's precious piece of dusty
> scrap lumber. In retrospect, we should've required totes.
>
> The lockers are either almost ignored or so nicely used they don't
> look used. I have one and it works great for my needs, and nobody puts
> locks on 'em. The nature of lockers means they can't get messy like
> shelves, and it's great.
>
> We weren't initially super clear about the expectation that storage
> wasn't for long-term abandonment of stuff. It seemed obvious, hah! And
> we've had crap luck with the "If you're not here regularly, your stuff
> shouldn't be here either" mantra. I've been utterly fascinated to
> discover that Artisan's Asylum flips this statement: "As per our
> Policies & Procedures, presence is a requirement. Activity is what
> makes our space vibrant." So, if your stuff is here, you should be
> here. Interesting!
>
> MakerWorks out in Ann Arbor has a really interesting model: They
> charge for storage, and the rate increases if you're not around using
> your stuff. A staff member comes by and clips a clothespin onto each
> storage space once per (week or month?), and counts the accumulated
> pins. Whenever you use your stuff, you remove the clothespins and
> reset your count to zero. So, an active space will have zero or one,
> and pays the lowest rate. If you're away for a while, your pins start
> building up, and your (weekly or monthly?) rate goes up. Accumulate 5
> pins and you're paying insane rates and that makes it okay that you're
> abusing the storage. It's pretty neat, if you have staff who can
> implement something like that.
>
> We at i3 don't charge for storage, although I've recently floated the
> idea that we should, but not in money: The only way to "buy" storage
> would be in volunteer hours. Maybe there'd be a maximum positive
> balance you could accrue, too. That would solve the presence problem
> and several others, maybe. If we try it I'll let you know how it goes!
>
> -Nate B-
>
> On 2018-10-04 03:21 PM, Joshua Pritt wrote:
>> At Melbourne Makerspace in Florida we just have shelves with
>> cardboard banker's boxes from Staples that you write your name /
>> handle on. Like mentioned earlier it makes it easy for us to say
>> "leave it in my box" when sharing supplies or parts. We haven't had
>> any problems yet! Except myself who now has 3 boxes and is getting
>> asked if I should pay a little extra for my space. Since I help a
>> lot and donate supplies like paper towels, post it notes, sharpies,
>> etc. as needed I use that as an excuse/payment for the extra space.
>> I also help teach the coding classes like Coder Dojo and our Code Jam
>> every Tuesday night.
>>
>> On Thu, Oct 4, 2018 at 2:43 PM Arclight <arclight at gmail.com
>> <mailto:arclight at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>> They're expensive to buy, but often cheap or free used. Check the
>> paper, Craigslist, etc. and you often find them. Downside is they
>> don't hold that much, and larger projects don't fit. Lots of folks
>> choose bins for this reason.
>> On Thu, Oct 4, 2018 at 11:18 AM Daniel F <buildtherobots at gmail.com
>> <mailto:buildtherobots at gmail.com>> wrote:
>> >
>> > Obvious downsides: if they're locked it could lead to a false
>> sense of security. It also makes it harder for people to say
>> "leave it in / take it from my box"
>> >
>> > When people leave you might have to cut locks off.
>> >
>> > They're also expensive to buy.
>> >
>> > Other than that, sounds ace :)
>> >
>> > On Thu, 4 Oct 2018, 19:13 Chad Elish, <chad at hackpittsburgh.org
>> <mailto:chad at hackpittsburgh.org>> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> We’re talking about putting lockers in our space. Currently we
>> have shelves that a member can store a tote on.
>> >>
>> >> Would like your input on pros/cons.
>> >>
>> >> -chad
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