[hackerspaces] Leadership abusing powers. Bullying. Extraordinary General Meetings.

[peter]

On 26/02/15 00:28, Volatile Compound wrote:
>
> Conversely, Peter, you could recognise that your arguments are going 
> nowhere and move on - you know, as you have been repeatedly advised to do.
>

It looks like it's going somewhere to me. I can only speculate as to why 
you don't see what I see.

If you're the one that has the problem, why don't you move on?



> And speaking as someone who has had zero involvement with LHS, I'm 
> beginning to suspect that their reasons for not wanting you there were 
> entirely reasonable and justified if your behaviour on this list is 
> anything to go by.
>

Yeah. I think I figured it out!


> - skroo.
>
> On Feb 25, 2015 4:15 PM, "peter" <phm at riseup.net 
> <mailto:phm at riseup.net>> wrote:
>
>
>     On 26/02/15 00:01, Jessica Ross wrote:
>>     Is this list becoming the new noisebridge-discuss? This has all
>>     been very droll and everything, but I think it's time for a
>>     moderator to step in.
>>
>
>     Or you could just choose not to read this thread. *shrug*
>
>     Why do you think we need a moderator to come along and decide what
>     everyone should read or post about?
>
>     Has there been anything abusive in this thread?
>
>
>>     On Wed, Feb 25, 2015 at 5:59 PM, peter <phm at riseup.net
>>     <mailto:phm at riseup.net>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>         On 25/02/15 23:54, Derek H wrote:
>>>         "If you read the thread closely, and you're smart, you might
>>>         guess where I'm going (there are clues)."
>>>
>>>         Yeah. We get it. You're insufferable and lack any degree of
>>>         properly formed human empathy. You're incredibly emotionally
>>>         unaware and insist on inflicting yourself upon situations
>>>         where your presence is unwelcome. NOTHING bad that happens
>>>         to you is your fault, and everyone is just out to get you
>>>         because they're so unenlightened. You're so advanced that
>>>         you don't even understand the concept of gender. Ooh. Ahh.
>>>         Now please leave us be.
>>>
>>
>>         'We'. 'us'. Who are you talking about?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>>         On Wed, Feb 25, 2015 at 5:48 PM, peter <phm at riseup.net
>>>         <mailto:phm at riseup.net>> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>             On 25/02/15 23:34, Don Ankney wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>             On Feb 25, 2015, at 9:51 AM, peter <phm at riseup.net
>>>>             <mailto:phm at riseup.net>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>             On 23/02/15 05:08, Sparr wrote:
>>>>>>             On Fri, Feb 20, 2015 at 2:56 PM, peter
>>>>>>             <phm at riseup.net <mailto:phm at riseup.net>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>                 Does anyone have advice/experience with the
>>>>>>                 leadership abusing their powers, doing
>>>>>>                 unconstitutional/unethical things?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>             Short answer: unless the group's bylaws give you some
>>>>>>             recourse, then you have none. The leadership gets to
>>>>>>             make up the rules, and if you don't like them then
>>>>>>             you can go start your own club. The actual points of
>>>>>>             your arguments don't matter. They could be telling
>>>>>>             you to stop wearing yellow shirts, and your
>>>>>>             justification for wearing yellow shirts WOULDNT MATTER.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>             I beg to differ. I don't care what the 'law' says. I
>>>>>             care about what is the right/moral thing to do.
>>>>>
>>>>>             (there is no appeal process, but I can try to call an
>>>>>             EGM, which is what I'm doing)
>>>>>
>>>>>             If your government starts committing genocide, would
>>>>>             you say 'oh well, they passed a law to make it legal,
>>>>>             so there is nothing I can do?'.
>>>>
>>>>             Off you should choose that example.The prelude to
>>>>             genocide is almost always dehumanizing the targets.
>>>
>>>             I was actually transhumanising, but I don't have time to
>>>             explain this right now.
>>>             If you read the thread closely, and you're smart, you
>>>             might guess where I'm going (there are clues).
>>>
>>>             I'm writing a reply for the LHS cleaner thread, cos I
>>>             think it's very interesting.
>>>

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