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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 26/02/15 00:28, Volatile Compound
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      <p dir="ltr">Conversely, Peter, you could recognise that your
        arguments are going nowhere and move on - you know, as you have
        been repeatedly advised to do.</p>
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    It looks like it's going somewhere to me. I can only speculate as to
    why you don't see what I see.<br>
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    If you're the one that has the problem, why don't you move on?<br>
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      <p dir="ltr">And speaking as someone who has had zero involvement
        with LHS, I'm beginning to suspect that their reasons for not
        wanting you there were entirely reasonable and justified if your
        behaviour on this list is anything to go by.</p>
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    Yeah. I think I figured it out!<br>
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      <p dir="ltr">- skroo.</p>
      <div class="gmail_quote">On Feb 25, 2015 4:15 PM, "peter" <<a
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            <div>On 26/02/15 00:01, Jessica Ross wrote:<br>
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              <div dir="ltr">Is this list becoming the new
                noisebridge-discuss? This has all been very droll and
                everything, but I think it's time for a moderator to
                step in. <br>
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            Or you could just choose not to read this thread. *shrug*<br>
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            Why do you think we need a moderator to come along and
            decide what everyone should read or post about?<br>
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            Has there been anything abusive in this thread?<br>
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                <div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Feb 25, 2015 at 5:59
                  PM, peter <span dir="ltr"><<a
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                        <div>On 25/02/15 23:54, Derek H wrote:<br>
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                          <div dir="ltr">"<span
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                              you read the thread closely, and you're
                              smart, you might guess where I'm going
                              (there are clues)."<br>
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                              Yeah. We get it. You're insufferable and
                              lack any degree of properly formed human
                              empathy. You're incredibly emotionally
                              unaware and insist on inflicting yourself
                              upon situations where your presence is
                              unwelcome. NOTHING bad that happens to you
                              is your fault, and everyone is just out to
                              get you because they're so unenlightened.
                              You're so advanced that you don't even
                              understand the concept of gender. Ooh.
                              Ahh. Now please leave us be.</span></div>
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                      </span> 'We'. 'us'. Who are you talking about?
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                              <div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Feb 25,
                                2015 at 5:48 PM, peter <span dir="ltr"><<a
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                                        <div>On 25/02/15 23:34, Don
                                          Ankney wrote:<br>
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                                            On Feb 25, 2015, at 9:51 AM,
                                            peter <<a
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                                              <div>On 23/02/15 05:08,
                                                Sparr wrote:<br>
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                                                      class="gmail_quote">On

                                                      Fri, Feb 20, 2015
                                                      at 2:56 PM, peter
                                                      <span dir="ltr"><<a
moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:phm@riseup.net" target="_blank">phm@riseup.net</a>></span>
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                                                          anyone have
                                                          advice/experience
                                                          with the
                                                          leadership
                                                          abusing their
                                                          powers, doing
                                                          unconstitutional/unethical

                                                          things?</div>
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                                                        Short answer:
                                                        unless the
                                                        group's bylaws
                                                        give you some
                                                        recourse, then
                                                        you have none.
                                                        The leadership
                                                        gets to make up
                                                        the rules, and
                                                        if you don't
                                                        like them then
                                                        you can go start
                                                        your own club.
                                                        The actual
                                                        points of your
                                                        arguments don't
                                                        matter. They
                                                        could be telling
                                                        you to stop
                                                        wearing yellow
                                                        shirts, and your
                                                        justification
                                                        for wearing
                                                        yellow shirts
                                                        WOULDNT MATTER. </div>
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                                              I beg to differ. I don't
                                              care what the 'law' says.
                                              I care about what is the
                                              right/moral thing to do.<br>
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                                              (there is no appeal
                                              process, but I can try to
                                              call an EGM, which is what
                                              I'm doing)<br>
                                              <br>
                                              If your government starts
                                              committing genocide, would
                                              you say 'oh well, they
                                              passed a law to make it
                                              legal, so there is nothing
                                              I can do?'.<br>
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                                          <div>Off you should choose
                                            that example.The prelude to
                                            genocide is almost always
                                            dehumanizing the targets. <br>
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                                    I was actually transhumanising, but
                                    I don't have time to explain this
                                    right now. <br>
                                    If you read the thread closely, and
                                    you're smart, you might guess where
                                    I'm going (there are clues).<br>
                                    <br>
                                    I'm writing a reply for the LHS
                                    cleaner thread, cos I think it's
                                    very interesting.<span></span><br>
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