[hackerspaces] Leadership abusing powers. Bullying. Extraordinary General Meetings.
peter
phm at riseup.net
Thu Feb 26 00:59:46 CET 2015
On 25/02/15 23:54, Derek H wrote:
> "If you read the thread closely, and you're smart, you might guess
> where I'm going (there are clues)."
>
> Yeah. We get it. You're insufferable and lack any degree of properly
> formed human empathy. You're incredibly emotionally unaware and insist
> on inflicting yourself upon situations where your presence is
> unwelcome. NOTHING bad that happens to you is your fault, and everyone
> is just out to get you because they're so unenlightened. You're so
> advanced that you don't even understand the concept of gender. Ooh.
> Ahh. Now please leave us be.
>
'We'. 'us'. Who are you talking about?
> On Wed, Feb 25, 2015 at 5:48 PM, peter <phm at riseup.net
> <mailto:phm at riseup.net>> wrote:
>
>
> On 25/02/15 23:34, Don Ankney wrote:
>>
>>
>> On Feb 25, 2015, at 9:51 AM, peter <phm at riseup.net
>> <mailto:phm at riseup.net>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> On 23/02/15 05:08, Sparr wrote:
>>>> On Fri, Feb 20, 2015 at 2:56 PM, peter <phm at riseup.net
>>>> <mailto:phm at riseup.net>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Does anyone have advice/experience with the leadership
>>>> abusing their powers, doing unconstitutional/unethical things?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Short answer: unless the group's bylaws give you some recourse,
>>>> then you have none. The leadership gets to make up the rules,
>>>> and if you don't like them then you can go start your own club.
>>>> The actual points of your arguments don't matter. They could be
>>>> telling you to stop wearing yellow shirts, and your
>>>> justification for wearing yellow shirts WOULDNT MATTER.
>>>>
>>>
>>> I beg to differ. I don't care what the 'law' says. I care about
>>> what is the right/moral thing to do.
>>>
>>> (there is no appeal process, but I can try to call an EGM, which
>>> is what I'm doing)
>>>
>>> If your government starts committing genocide, would you say 'oh
>>> well, they passed a law to make it legal, so there is nothing I
>>> can do?'.
>>
>> Off you should choose that example.The prelude to genocide is
>> almost always dehumanizing the targets.
>
> I was actually transhumanising, but I don't have time to explain
> this right now.
> If you read the thread closely, and you're smart, you might guess
> where I'm going (there are clues).
>
> I'm writing a reply for the LHS cleaner thread, cos I think it's
> very interesting.
>
>
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