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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 25/02/15 23:54, Derek H wrote:<br>
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      <div dir="ltr">"<span style="font-size:12.8000001907349px">If you
          read the thread closely, and you're smart, you might guess
          where I'm going (there are clues)."<br>
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          Yeah. We get it. You're insufferable and lack any degree of
          properly formed human empathy. You're incredibly emotionally
          unaware and insist on inflicting yourself upon situations
          where your presence is unwelcome. NOTHING bad that happens to
          you is your fault, and everyone is just out to get you because
          they're so unenlightened. You're so advanced that you don't
          even understand the concept of gender. Ooh. Ahh. Now please
          leave us be.</span></div>
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    'We'. 'us'. Who are you talking about?<br>
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        <div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Feb 25, 2015 at 5:48 PM, peter
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                  <div>On 25/02/15 23:34, Don Ankney wrote:<br>
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                      On Feb 25, 2015, at 9:51 AM, peter <<a
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                        <div>On 23/02/15 05:08, Sparr wrote:<br>
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                              <div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Feb 20,
                                2015 at 2:56 PM, peter <span dir="ltr"><<a
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                                    anyone have advice/experience with
                                    the leadership abusing their powers,
                                    doing unconstitutional/unethical
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                                  Short answer: unless the group's
                                  bylaws give you some recourse, then
                                  you have none. The leadership gets to
                                  make up the rules, and if you don't
                                  like them then you can go start your
                                  own club. The actual points of your
                                  arguments don't matter. They could be
                                  telling you to stop wearing yellow
                                  shirts, and your justification for
                                  wearing yellow shirts WOULDNT MATTER. </div>
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                        I beg to differ. I don't care what the 'law'
                        says. I care about what is the right/moral thing
                        to do.<br>
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                        (there is no appeal process, but I can try to
                        call an EGM, which is what I'm doing)<br>
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                        If your government starts committing genocide,
                        would you say 'oh well, they passed a law to
                        make it legal, so there is nothing I can do?'.<br>
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                    <div>Off you should choose that example.The prelude
                      to genocide is almost always dehumanizing the
                      targets. <br>
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              I was actually transhumanising, but I don't have time to
              explain this right now. <br>
              If you read the thread closely, and you're smart, you
              might guess where I'm going (there are clues).<br>
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              I'm writing a reply for the LHS cleaner thread, cos I
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