[hackerspaces] Improve hackerspace diversity - Donate to Ada Initiative
Frantisek Apfelbeck
algoldor at yahoo.com
Wed Sep 24 14:31:09 CEST 2014
Hi to all,
it is interesting to see the development of anti-harassment policy in the movement, main interest on this topic seems to be in USA.
So far for me the most appealing was original Noisebridge policy:
"Be excellent to each other"
or the one which CCC adopted for their events:
The Chaos Computer Club is, by its chapter and by common consent, a galactic organization of all life forms, regardless of their age, gender or upbringing.
We are dedicated to providing a safe and comfortable experience
for everybody attending our events, regardless of age, gender, sexual
orientation, race, physical appearance or disability. We do not tolerate harassment of participants of the Congress in any form. As stated previously, we also don't tolerate life forms who refuse to share this openness towards others.
The Congress has always been a place where people can enjoy
technology and culture, no matter what their background is. To keep it
that way: If someone is misbehaving and you want support, let the
Congress Volunteers (Engel resp. angels) know, they will be glad to help. Have the courage to ask us!
What I like about them a lot is that they are worded in a very simple and clear manner so people from variety of backgrounds and cultures can get the message quite easilty.
Sincerely,
Frantisek Algoldor Apfelbeck
biotechnologist&kvasir and hacker
http://www.frantisekapfelbeck.org
"There is no way to peace, peace is the way." Mohandas Karamchand Gandhi
On Wednesday, September 24, 2014 7:50 PM, Bacon Zombie <baconzombie at gmail.com> wrote:
If you listen to the interview I posted you will learn Ada were there to get a talk pulled even before the con and brought a reported with them!
They did not know the title and subject of the talk before hand.
She also lied about a rape victim been at the Con and been concerned about the talk.
On Sep 23, 2014 11:52 PM, "Randall Arnold" <randall.arnold at texrat.net> wrote:
>I never once stated that it was a mistake to approach the organizers, so please: no straw men. I said I believe the final action taken was wrong in my opinion. I stand by that.
>Violet's account of the incident is the more believable one in my opinion (again, I have zero involvement with either party) and one of her slides makes her position very clear.
>I abhor harassment in any form, but you won't be able to convince me that censorship and political correctness are valid solutions. And I don't believe it was too late to discuss prefacing the talk with a quick disclaimer. Obviously there was time for a talk on censorship.
>Randy
>On September 23, 2014 at 4:45 PM Kristin-Leigh Brezinski <okrysmastree at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>The organizers are ultimately responsible for the way they advertise
>>and present the events at their conference, so I don't think it was a
>>mistake to bring the issue directly to them. There's a disconnect
>>between VB's description of what the talk actually is vs the way it
>>was presented in the schedule, and ideally that could have been
>>addressed rather than cancelling the talk outright, but it may have
>>been too late in the game at that point.
>>
>>On 9/23/14, Randall Arnold <randall.arnold at texrat.net> wrote:
>>> But instead of getting the talk killed outright, doesn't approaching the
>>> speaker
>>> openly and honestly to request she preface the talk with reasonable
>>> disclaimers
>>> make much more sense?
>>>
>>> I have no dog in this one so I'm being fairly objective I think when I
>>> submit
>>> that Violet was mistreated here. Fear over a provocative talk title
>>> followed by
>>> knee-jerking political correctness was not at all the answer.
>>>
>>> Randy
>>>
>>>> On September 23, 2014 at 4:13 PM Kristin-Leigh Brezinski
>>>> <okrysmastree at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> What was annoying about the Defcon penalty cards? I saw them as a
>>>> clever
>>>> way to bring attention to conference harassment issues and give people a
>>>> low-stakes, humorous way to flag bad behavior.
>>>>
>>>> Re: Violet Blue, I think the whole thing got blown out of proportion,
>>>> but
>>>> really, who thought a talk titled "sex +/- drugs: known vulns and
>>>> exploits"
>>>> wouldn't raise red flags to a lot of women(/people in general)? Anyone
>>>> who
>>>> considers themselves enough of a wordsmith to play on puns like that
>>>> should be
>>>> open to criticism of the double-meanings in the terms they're invoking.
>>>>
>>>> AI isn't the only organization working on this stuff, but I very much
>>>> appreciate any organization striving to make solid anti-harassment
>>>> policies
>>>> and codes of conduct a default at professional conferences, fan
>>>> conventions,
>>>> and hacker/makerspaces. Thanks for the post, Liz - I'll definitely keep
>>>> this
>>>> in mind when I evaluate the flexibility of my budgets end of month. :)
>>>>
>>>> - Kristin-Leigh
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Sep 23, 2014 at 1:08 PM, matt < matt at nycresistor.com
>>>> <mailto:matt at nycresistor.com> > wrote:
>>>>
>>>> > > Ada has been a pretty toxic member of the infosec
>>>> > > community. Their stupid harassment cards at defcon were
>>>> annoying,
>>>> > > but the violet blue incident is but one of several incidents
>>>> of
>>>> > > manufacturing drama for PR. that sort of behavior is
>>>> unacceptable
>>>> > > in our community. And as you said... ada is a small org. 2
>>>> people.
>>>> > > so i don't see the culture of ada ever changing. I'd rather
>>>> people
>>>> > > invested in the gnome outreach program for women.
>>>> >
>>>> > https://wiki.gnome.org/OutreachProgramForWomen
>>>> >
>>>> > -matt
>>>> >
>>>> > On Tue, Sep 23, 2014 at 3:46 PM, Al Billings <
>>>> > albill at openbuddha.com
>>>> > <mailto:albill at openbuddha.com> > wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> > > > > Yes, the real problem that people care
>>>> > about
>>>> > > > > is that Valerie hates Violet Blue and it isn’t that
>>>> > > > > Valerie, using her role in AI, got a sex-positive talk
>>>> > by
>>>> > > > > a woman cancelled at a conference because she didn’t
>>>> > like
>>>> > > > > it. Since she still runs AI and clearly nothing has
>>>> > > > > changed, I’m not sure why you’re surprised that
>>>> > people
>>>> > > > > have a negative reaction.
>>>> > >
>>>> > >
>>>> > > On Sep 23, 2014, at 12:44 PM, Liz Henry <
>>>> > > lizhenry at gmail.com
>>>> > > <mailto:lizhenry at gmail.com> > wrote:
>>>> > >
>>>> > >
>>>> > > > > > > Ada Initiative: A small non
>>>> > > profit
>>>> > > > > > > run by two people who once pissed off Violet
>>>> > > Blue.
>>>> > > >
>>>> > > > > > >
>>>> > >
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