[hackerspaces] Members under 18

bownes bownes at gmail.com
Fri Nov 7 04:07:12 CET 2014

Where is the Like button when I need it?
This is pretty much the discussion we went through. 

> On Nov 6, 2014, at 20:27, Torrie Fischer <tdfischer at hackerbots.net> wrote:
> At a former space of mine, we came to the conclusion that:
> * Everyone who walked in the door had to sign a liability waiver
> * If you were under 18, your legal parent/guardian had to sign that they were 
> responsible for you and would always be present whenever in the space
> We consulted a lawyer and they said it was legally sound, just as long as the 
> parent was in the space. There was a lot of arguing/discussion about whether 
> or not we should bend the rules for one or two youngsters who had been allowed 
> to roam free in the space prior to the decision, but once we brought up the 
> "If we get sued we're all totally fucked and its really just Not Excellent to 
> cause us all to be totally fucked" argument, it was settled pretty quickly.
>> On Thursday, November 06, 2014 06:19:34 PM Pete Prodoehl wrote:
>> Our space is currently in a discussion about allowing people under 18
>> (16 & 17 year olds) to become members.
>> We've got some people who are against it because it would "ruin" their
>> favorite hangout space, or make them uncomfortable in some way.
>> We've got some people who are convinced that the legal/insurance aspects
>> will cause us to lose our insurance policy and have to shut down.
>> We have some that think that while we can trust an 18 year old, a 17
>> year old is in no way to be trusted and will do completely stupid shit.
>> We've even discussed specific rules for 16 & 17 year olds, which would
>> be much more limiting than members 18 or older. (They would need to have
>> a family member as a member, not be allowed in the space without the
>> family member that is a member, etc.)
>> Anyway, I'm sure there are spaces that allow people under 18 to be
>> members, or guests that can use equipment, etc. and I'm looking for real
>> cases especially if you've got an insurance policy that addresses minors.
>> thanks!
>> Pete
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