[hackerspaces] Members under 18

[Arclight]

My experience is that the kids who are "mini adults" and cause no drama
generally have parents who are good people and also don't make trouble
appear. There is probably a cause-and-effect thing going on I think.

Arclight
On Nov 6, 2014 4:45 PM, "Don Ankney" <dankney at hackerco.de> wrote:

>  You're conflating two questions. The first is the practical one about
> how to go about admitting. The second one is whether you really want to.
> Your opinion is already pretty clear:
>
>
>  "​We've got some people who are against it because it would "ruin" their
> favorite hangout space, or make them uncomfortable in some way."
>
>
>  Setting aside the pejorative overtones of this statement,  you will
> likely lose some members over the decision to admit kids as members. Just
> as many adults chose not to become parents, many adults don't enjoy hanging
> out with kids. That's okay, and you should recognize that it's a perfectly
> valid preference, and that those folks will likely wander off and find new
> places to invest their time, effort, and money.
>
>
>  This decision represents cultural change. Take it seriously and have a
> real discussion about it rather than writing off the "adults-only" faction
> as whiners. Either decision can be positive -- just go into it with an open
> mind and eyes and make sure it's the culture you really want to have.
>
>
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> <discuss-bounces+dankney=hackerco.de at lists.hackerspaces.org> on behalf of
> Bob Bownes <bownes at gmail.com>
> *Sent:* Thursday, November 6, 2014 4:29 PM
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> *Subject:* Re: [hackerspaces] Members under 18
>
>
>  At the TVCoG, we require an adult be onsite to be responsible for anyone
> under 18. The kid can be the member, or it can be a family membership, but
> someone has to be responsible for them. It's really a matter of state law
> and age of majority for us.
>
>
>
> On Thu, Nov 6, 2014 at 7:26 PM, Alan Fay <emptyset at freesideatlanta.org>
> wrote:
>
>> Here's Freeside's age restrictions policy, for some ideas:
>> https://wiki.freesideatlanta.org/fs/Policy_AgeRestrictions
>>
>> On Thu, Nov 6, 2014 at 7:19 PM, Pete Prodoehl <raster at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Our space is currently in a discussion about allowing people under 18
>>> (16 & 17 year olds) to become members.
>>>
>>> We've got some people who are against it because it would "ruin" their
>>> favorite hangout space, or make them uncomfortable in some way.
>>>
>>> We've got some people who are convinced that the legal/insurance aspects
>>> will cause us to lose our insurance policy and have to shut down.
>>>
>>> We have some that think that while we can trust an 18 year old, a 17
>>> year old is in no way to be trusted and will do completely stupid shit.
>>>
>>> We've even discussed specific rules for 16 & 17 year olds, which would
>>> be much more limiting than members 18 or older. (They would need to have a
>>> family member as a member, not be allowed in the space without the family
>>> member that is a member, etc.)
>>>
>>> Anyway, I'm sure there are spaces that allow people under 18 to be
>>> members, or guests that can use equipment, etc. and I'm looking for real
>>> cases especially if you've got an insurance policy that addresses minors.
>>>
>>> thanks!
>>>
>>>
>>> Pete
>>>
>>>
>>>
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