[hackerspaces] Differences between hackerspaces and fablabs

[j. grenzfurthner/monochrom (das ende der nahrungskette)]

For tl;dr people.

What we say is:
a) don't forget our history
b) look at the demographics of folks at hackerspaces (hasn't really changed since we published the pamphlet in 2009)
c) aim for reflection and change

That's it.


> On 13 May 2014, at 17:27, Ben Brown <ben at generik.ca> wrote:
> 
> I've read that article before. I agree with some of it's positions, though I question the notions that today's hackerspaces are actively exclusionary of ethnic and social groups, and that they're doing more harm than good if they're not expressly politically motivated.
> 
> I like to think that hackerspaces/makerspaces/whatever in general are already rallying against the status quo simply by continually existing and promoting alternative values in a consumerist and predominantly anti-DIY society, regardless of whether the counter-culturalists of decades ago approve or not.
> 
> Ben
> 
>> On 5/13/2014 10:46 AM, Edward L Platt wrote:
>> Required reading: "Hacking The Spaces" by Johannes Grenzfurthner and Frank Apunkt Schneider.  http://www.monochrom.at/hacking-the-spaces/
>> 
>> 
>>> On Tue, May 13, 2014 at 10:42 AM, Ben Brown <ben at generik.ca> wrote:
>>> On 5/12/2014 8:16 PM, maxigas wrote:
>>> > I would argue that everything that came after hackerspaces is merely
>>> > capitalising on the struggles and works of hackers to invent an
>>> > attitude to technology which prooved to be immensely innovative and
>>> > incredibly excititing, while deluting its politics and denying their
>>> > roots because they don't have to figth for it the same way any more.
>>> 
>>> This is where you lost me. What has (detrimentally) changed now that the
>>> concept of hackerspaces is becoming popular? I don't believe any space
>>> has ever clung to the exact ideals and philosophies of another. Do you
>>> believe that new spaces don't need to fight for existence?
>>> 
>>> Ben
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>> 
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