[hackerspaces] Discuss Digest, Vol 70, Issue 7

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Fri Jun 6 15:05:14 CEST 2014


Yeah sorry about that copy/paste error. I usually just follow the thread.


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I don't want to race really but i can help with whatever. does grim reaper need a bad ass moxie car/ bike



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   1. Re: where to do PhD hacker style - probably	independent
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   2. Re: Insurance for makerspace (john lunger)


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Date: Wed, 4 Jun 2014 15:51:59 -0700 (PDT)
From: Frantisek Apfelbeck <algoldor at yahoo.com>
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Subject: Re: [hackerspaces] where to do PhD hacker style - probably
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Thanks for the replies,
my project is alternative mostly by the aim to do majority of it from an 
independent lab, through funding which I would have to secure and by the fact 
that I would come up with my own topic for the thesis. It is basically about 
biofilm polycultures as kombucha, kefir, water kefir etc. and how to optimize 
the technology to produce high quality fermented foods and beverages which would 
be economically viable under small to medium business production scheme. First I 
would focus on the structure of the cultures and their dynamics (I will add a 
few new things here to the "scientific knowledge") using this inside/overview to 
establish efficient and good quality techniques for their proliferation using 
this technology to produce high quality fermented foods&beverages (here would 
quite few new things which I would add), small to medium scale production. All 
ending with a business model which would be tested in the real life showing that 
it is viable (as a
combination of above again quite a progressive thing definitely in a field of 
applied science or R&D transfer and application). If time allows (3-5 years is 
not so much) I definitely want to develop a system of courses to teach it to 
interested people and parties so it can spread more easily around the world - 
again something what I've been doing for several years. That would make the 
cycle complete, all open source as usually. 
I'm doing this in a less academic manner for a while and I know it is actually 
"in" and it has a great potential, it is more about finding a spot where I can 
stay for 3-5 years having a base there to make it happen and having a PhD. 
status when working on it from some UNI which would result in PhD. degree in the 
field if things go well. It is highly likely I would do most of the work in 
independent laboratories just partly collaborating with academy on parts of the 
project, securing majority of the funding by myself, PhD. stipendium is 
unlikely. So it is really mostly about the umbrella. Supervisors would be all 
around the world :-) And yes I need another half year or so of discussion and 
planning to come up with a really proper thesis proposal but I feel it is time 
for me to open the discussion and start to look around more actively.

Sincerely,


Frantisek Algoldor Apfelbeck


biotechnologist&kvasir and hacker


http://www.frantisekapfelbeck.org


"There is no way to peace, peace is the way." Mohandas Karamchand Gandhi



On Thursday, June 5, 2014 6:05 AM, Don Ankney <dankney at hackerco.de> wrote:



I'm not sure how "alternative" what you're talking about is. In the US, ar 
least, food science is a recognized discipline. Graduates generally end up 
working for commercial food conglomerates working on the newest potato chip 
(crisp) flavor.

While you"re likely interested in much less commercial applications of the 
degree, I think the core academic programs are already established.





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From: Frantisek Apfelbeck
Sent: ?6/?4/?2014 3:46 AM
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Subject: [hackerspaces] where to do PhD hacker style - probably independent 
funding needing just the stamp and official supervision


Hi to all,
I am thinking about doing a PhD. on the stuff which I do within the hacker 
community for several years, my field is food&beverage biotech. I wonder if 
people would know places/universities which would be friendly to the alternative 
topics like these. I've a project which I'm working on and off for several years 
now and I want to move it further forward considering it as a PhD project 
actually, you can find rough info to get idea here

http://frantisekapfelbeck.org/doku.php?id=chihiro

Funding through the UNI would be nice but not necessary, I believe that I can 
get most of the resources through crowdsourcing and another alternative ways 
valuing my freedom than funds with strings. This means that long distance and 
external supervisors etc. are fine with me but still I need to find place which 
has the "qualification" to give me the PhD. at? the end. I'm Czech by the way so 
EU should be more friendly for me and cheaper if I have to pay.


Many thanks for any info, I'll share it in the future with others who may go 
similar path, it starting to be more frequent desire seems to me to get 
recognition in the academic sector but use alternative base/approach and 
fundings.


Sincerely from Jeju, South Korea,

Frantisek Algoldor Apfelbeck
PS I have master degree in genetic engineering and "on wait" master thesis in 
biotech and good recommendation from both academic hacker community. The reason 
for the PhD. is partly forcing myself to a more systematic approach and also 
using the "possible PhD." to smoothen the ways to bring forward some of the 
projects which lies ahead. 


   chihiro [frantisekapfelbeck] 
This project is focused on promotion and development of food sustainability in 
local rural communities using variety of fermentation cultures and techniques.   

View on frantisekapfelbeck.org Preview by Yahoo  
?



biotechnologist&kvasir and hacker


http://www.frantisekapfelbeck.org


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I am in the US and also seeking insurance for outreach events and space. Please 
send me info.?
?
Carolyn and John
Hayhackers-A Technology Playground
Nonprofit organization
http://www.hayhackers.org

To order essential oils or join the discount membership program from me :
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From: Bert Hartmann <berthartm at gmail.com>
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Sent: Monday, June 2, 2014 6:28 AM
Subject: Re: [hackerspaces] Insurance for makerspace



Nick, I have a recommendation for a company a few of us in NJ are using. I'll 
send it to you off list.





On Sat, May 31, 2014 at 11:36 PM, Bob Bownes <bownes at gmail.com> wrote:

We got ours under teh 'club' heading, were very upfront about what we do, gave 
them a full list of equipment, and pointed out we got a sawstop table saw just 
for the liability aspect. When they heard about the sawstop, they were pretty 
thrilled.? We also gave them the outline for our safety programs. 
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>Bob
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>On Sat, May 31, 2014 at 10:28 PM, Ben Brown <ben at generik.ca> wrote:
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>We had some initial issues as well, but once one of the insurance companies 
figured out how to classify us (they went with something like 'private club 
workshop', we were flying. We didn't keep them in the dark about what we did, 
and as a result they even made sure our liability insurance covered events that 
we run outside of our space (like Mini Maker Faire). 
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>>We upped our coverage when adding new big-ticket items, and also
    when we moved into our new space about 1.5 years ago, still no
    problems. Of course, we've never had to make a claim so far either.
    That said, we assume that any colossal fuckup that gets lawyers
    involved would likely close our doors anyway, regardless of how the
    insurance lands.
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>>Not sure how different it is in the US as opposed to Canada, but
    they may have an easier time wrapping their head around it if you
    refer to your space as a club or private workshop as opposed to a
    hackerspace/makerspace. Don't leave out exactly what activities are
    going on though.
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>>Good luck,
>>Ben
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>>On 5/31/2014 7:55 PM, Nick Pollara wrote:
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>>I am setting up a makerspace in NJ and I am having trouble getting g 
insurance. Does anyone have a recommendation? 
>>>If this is a repeat question I apologize, but I have not figured out to 
access the archives.
>>>Thanks,
>>>Nicolas Pollara
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