[hackerspaces] Does the maker culture get the step on the hackers culture?

Aurélien DESBRIÈRES aurelien at hackers.camp
Fri Jul 4 07:18:43 CEST 2014

Mars Saxman <mars at redecho.org> writes:

> On Jul 3, 2014, at 2:26 PM, Mark Janssen wrote:
>>> We call it ALTSpace. I don't care whether you call it a hackerspace or a
>>> makerspace, it's a cool place either way.
>> You can call it what you want, friend, but without a business plan or
>> a larger economic/political agenda, I call it a clubhouse, which is
>> spelled: D-O-O-M-E-D.
> In the long run, we're all doomed. In the meantime, ALTSpace has been
> operating for three and a half years, has expanded twice, has a slowly
> but steadily growing membership working on a broad array of different
> types of projects, and covers all of its bills every month without
> needing donations or sponsorship, or even having to advertise.

Which hackerspare are you?

>> Without more *explicit* goals, you can go the way of sf_x which had a
>> great credentialed team of PhDs and committed individuals, yet
>> nonetheless dissipated by the power of entropy.
> Sure, it's possible, even likely, that ALTSpace will eventually lose
> steam and fade away. So what? We'll all move on and do other things.
> In the meantime, it's a cool space that people want to work in, it has
> value to the people who are involved in it, and that's enough for us
> to call it a success.
> Whether they care about politics or not, everyone involved gets to
> practice self organization and build relationships based on mutual
> benefit rather than commercial exchange or exploitation, and that's a
> small way to help create the kind of world I would rather live in. It
> also gives people experience operating within such organizations, and
> a model they can learn from when they want to establish their own
> cooperative projects.
> -Mars

All that sounds great, thanks for sharing Mars!

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