[hackerspaces] Does the maker culture get the step on the hackers culture?

[Naomi Most]

"I believe there is something *inherently* political in the practice
of self-organization for mutual benefit, whether or not the group has
broader and more explicit political goals."

I agree -- and as Torrie and Yar pointed out, there is an incredible
amount of privilege in declaring that you are essentially apolitical.
Easy for cis white males to say...

--Naomi


On Thu, Jul 3, 2014 at 2:03 PM, Mars Saxman <mars at redecho.org> wrote:
>
>> I'm going to attempt to settle the matter.  A makerspace has machines
>> makes physical objects.  A hackerspace doesn't necessarily have
>> machines, but has computers and wifi.
>
> What do you call a space which has machines for making physical objects, which also has computers and wifi, which was founded primarily by software people who wanted a place to use their angle grinders, which is neither about politics nor entirely non-political, which does not have a community of its own but which emerged out of a larger, existing, semi-political-semi-artistic community, which it continues to serve but no longer precisely overlaps, which has no interest in becoming a 501(c)3 style nonprofit and basically doesn't run any educational programs, but also has no intention of ever making any money, which has a group of non-democratically-elected managing members who bear formal political authority, but which in practical terms runs as a good-natured anarchist DIY do-ocracy...?
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> We call it ALTSpace. I don't care whether you call it a hackerspace or a makerspace, it's a cool place either way.
>
> I believe there is something *inherently* political in the practice of self-organization for mutual benefit, whether or not the group has broader and more explicit political goals.
>
> I believe that the distinction between software and hardware hacking is growing steadily less meaningful as our civilization continues the process of automating everything in sight.
>
> Diversity in forms and goals of hackerspaces is a good thing. No one box can hold us all. Why fuss about labels?
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