[hackerspaces] In defense of Noisebridge (even if I was never there!)

[Colin Keigher]

This.

Far too many people have gotten involved in the hackerspace/makerspace 
movement who otherwise have no business being involved. Refugees and 
rejects from Occupy and other activist movements have tried to get 
involved in these spaces in the hopes that they'll make a difference via 
a group that wasn't established for them to usurp. They contribute 
virtually nothing to the space other than being disruptive to its 
foundation.

Hackerspaces and like-minded groups are not places to serve the needy, 
they're there to create. Fixing societal problems is to be a byproduct 
of what these spaces produce, not its end goal.

The moment that you have members trying to make it the goal is the 
moment the space is lost.

On 03/07/2014 10:00, Al Billings wrote:
> No offense, really, but fuck your politics. :-)
>
> Yes, hacking is more than making things. That doesn’t mean that if a space doesn’t embrace some anarchist ideology as its primary motivating force, it isn’t a hackerspace. I’m here to hack. If I want to feed the homeless, I’ll volunteer at a soup kitchen.
>
> On Jul 3, 2014, at 9:58 AM, David Potocnik <david.potocnik at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hacking is more than just making stuff. Just making stuff is ....
>> fine. And that's me out of here.
>>
>> On 3 July 2014 18:48, Al Billings <albill at openbuddha.com> wrote:
>>> I’ve always found that to be a bullshit distinction. The only people that I know that use it are those that want to label someone’s hackerspace as a “makerspace” and not really a “hackerspace” because it doesn’t fit some personal criteria.
>>>
>>> On Jul 3, 2014, at 9:46 AM, David Potocnik <david.potocnik at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hackerspaces vs Makerspaces.
> Al Billings
> albill at openbuddha.com
> http://makehacklearn.org
>
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