[hackerspaces] Let's end the unnecessary joining of the words "food" and "hacking"

Philip Poten philip.poten at gmail.com
Mon Jan 27 19:48:40 CET 2014


For me, the inclusionist interpretation of hacking is achieving
command or creative use in a domain in such a way that one sparks the
ability to progress beyond what was laid out by those before them.

You really can do this with anything, at any place and with any sort
of people. And that's why a lot of hackerspaces encourage talents and
ideas of all colours.

I like this interpretation, and I like hackerspaces.

The exclusionist interpretation of hacking has something to do with
programmers and keyboards.

It can be done at MIT with really old and obsolete UNIX machines.

This interpretation also exists.


2014-01-27 Kevin Mitnick <kevin.mitnick at outlook.com>:
> Since we feel that diluting this term is a good idea, I propose that we
> change things on the Wiki and elsewhere to address this use of the word
> "hacker".
>
> - "Building hacker" is now the term for a architect.
> - "Food hacker" now encompasses being a chef, baker, cook, or just some dude
> making a sandwich.
> - "Government hacker" is not a term for someone in China's military, but for
> a politician.
> - "E-mail hacker" includes every person in this mailing list and I guess
> those who are not too.
> - "Rent hacker" is someone who evades paying their own rent.
> - "Money hacker" is someone who invests in the stock market or can encompass
> a gambler too.
> - "Music hacker" is someone who listens to music.
> - "Musical hacker" is someone who makes music with an instrument.
> - "Brotruck hacker" is someone who drives a lifted truck.
>
> I am going to go and edit the Wiki to reflect this.
>
>
> Kevin Mitnick
> (May or may not be the Kevin you think I am)
>
> ________________________________
> Date: Mon, 27 Jan 2014 05:25:47 -0800
> From: longobord at gmail.com
>
> To: discuss at lists.hackerspaces.org
> Subject: Re: [hackerspaces] Let's end the unnecessary joining of the words
> "food" and "hacking"
>
> Johannes, that's semantics purists, to be specific.
>
> ________
> "As a means of espionage, writs of assistance and general warrants are but
> puny instruments of tyranny and oppression when compared with wire tapping."
>  - Justice Louis Brandeis, Olmstead v. US, dissenting opinion
>
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>
> On Mon, Jan 27, 2014 at 2:39 AM, Jordan Miller <jrdnmlr at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> hacking origin predates computers and perhaps started as someone in a
> jungle holding a machete. also Jason from the movie halloween. he was
> a ridiculously famous hacker. that was the common parlance at the
> time.
>
> language changes, though we are wont to resist it.
>
> we can consider that language doesn't come from groups of people
> agreeing to follow dictionary rules. rather, dictionary rules come
> from following common usage of sounds and phrases.
>
> indeed, there was a time not too long ago that "computer hacking" as
> it is commonly used today was not part of the dictionary definition.
> but that has changed.
>
> http://science.howstuffworks.com/life/evolution/language-evolve.htm
>
> jordan
>
>
>
>> On Jan 27, 2014, at 4:23 AM, Rubin Abdi <rubin at starset.net> wrote:
>>
>> j. grenzfurthner/monochrom (das ende der nahrungskette) wrote, On
>> 2014-01-27 01:40:
>>> Language purists.
>>> Sweet.
>>
>> What would that make me, Johannes?
>>
>> --
>> Rubin
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