[hackerspaces] Hackerspaces origins history

[michael howard]

"Hacklabs" have a very strongly political history.  "Hackerspaces" vary -
but it seems that not so much.

The hackerspaces.org front page has zero protest content.
http://www.hacklabs.org/ is covered in political issues and history.

I found some historical reasons for that here.
http://peerproduction.net/issues/issue-2/peer-reviewed-papers/hacklabs-and-hackerspaces/





2014-08-12 18:01 GMT-03:00 . <whipboi at hotmail.com>:

> Way to troll, you actually had me until now. But I guess I can't resist
> the bait.
> http://events.ccc.de/congress/2006/Fahrplan/events/1373.en.html
> http://blip.tv/2600magazine/beyond-hope-1997-the-l0pht-5798703
>
> While I am being excessively direct and rude, I do tire of relentless
> visions of a post-government world being tied to our hard work. There is a
> place for describing and hoping for a better future. Unfortunately those of
> us doing the work of forming and running hackerspaces have to still deal
> with the real world which means not going to jail for failing to work
> within the system. I'm sure you work hard resisting the man though. I don't
> have a desire to start a hackerspace on an abandoned WWII anti-aircraft
> platform so I guess I'll just have stick to doing that within my own
> community. That also means it will have to be done within the confines of
> my local governmental system. You can spend all your time fighting battles
> you can't win or you can choose battles you have a chance at winning. I'm
> not Nelson Mandela and I have better things to do than spend my life in
> jail. You and Stallman can go off and get beaten up by the cops at
> protests, I'll stick to hacking and building a community. If that makes me
> a coward then I'll wear that badge with honor as I am proud of the
> community I've helped build.
>
>
> > Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2014 13:48:09 -0500
> > From: dreamingforward at gmail.com
> > To: discuss at lists.hackerspaces.org
>
> > Subject: Re: [hackerspaces] Hackerspaces origins history
> >
> > On Tue, Aug 12, 2014 at 1:10 PM, . <whipboi at hotmail.com> wrote:
> > > You forgot to refer to society as bourgeoisie. Again, someone
> attempting to
> > > bolt their political objectives to the hackerspace scene.
> >
> > No, it's not "someone". It's _me_, generally speaking. I seem to be
> > the activist here, you don't have to disparage everyone else.
> >
> > > And anyone who
> > > leaves out the L0pht and The Hacker Foundation in their history of
> > > hackerspaces only knows the most recent crop of spaces.
> >
> > The L0pht was a dream that materialized only in print, though it still
> > may form the basis of the hackerspace ethos. The Hacker Foundation I
> > think you just made up.
> >
> > In any case, while everyone wants to ride the power of the idea, just
> > like in the formation of the US, there have been the true patriots
> > protecting those ideals. Richard Stallman and the Free Software
> > Foundation, for example. Unfortunately for us, there are many lazy
> > cowards.
> >
> > Marxos
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