[hackerspaces] Hackerspaces origins history

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Way to troll, you actually had me until now. But I guess I can't resist the bait.http://events.ccc.de/congress/2006/Fahrplan/events/1373.en.htmlhttp://blip.tv/2600magazine/beyond-hope-1997-the-l0pht-5798703While I am being excessively direct and rude, I do tire of relentless visions of a post-government world being tied to our hard work. There is a place for describing and hoping for a better future. Unfortunately those of us doing the work of forming and running hackerspaces have to still deal with the real world which means not going to jail for failing to work within the system. I'm sure you work hard resisting the man though. I don't have a desire to start a hackerspace on an abandoned WWII anti-aircraft platform so I guess I'll just have stick to doing that within my own community. That also means it will have to be done within the confines of my local governmental system. You can spend all your time fighting battles you can't win or you can choose battles you have a chance at winning. I'm not Nelson Mandela and I have better things to do than spend my life in jail. You and Stallman can go off and get beaten up by the cops at protests, I'll stick to hacking and building a community. If that makes me a coward then I'll wear that badge with honor as I am proud of the community I've helped build.

> Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2014 13:48:09 -0500> From: dreamingforward at gmail.com
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> Subject: Re: [hackerspaces] Hackerspaces origins history
> 
> On Tue, Aug 12, 2014 at 1:10 PM, . <whipboi at hotmail.com> wrote:
> > You forgot to refer to society as bourgeoisie. Again, someone attempting to
> > bolt their political objectives to the hackerspace scene.
> 
> No, it's not "someone".  It's _me_, generally speaking.  I seem to be
> the activist here, you don't have to disparage everyone else.
> 
> > And anyone who
> > leaves out the L0pht and The Hacker Foundation in their history of
> > hackerspaces only knows the most recent crop of spaces.
> 
> The L0pht was a dream that materialized only in print, though it still
> may form the basis of the hackerspace ethos.  The Hacker Foundation I
> think you just made up.> 
> In any case, while everyone wants to ride the power of the idea, just
> like in the formation of the US, there have been the true patriots
> protecting those ideals.  Richard Stallman and the Free Software
> Foundation, for example.  Unfortunately for us, there are many lazy
> cowards.
> 
> Marxos
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