[hackerspaces] Wiki license

Matthew Senate mattsenate at gmail.com
Thu Apr 24 01:43:03 CEST 2014


Update about CC-SA (opportunity for CC-BY-SA 4.0 to work without mandatory
attribution, more like CC-SA 1.0):

On Wed, Apr 23, 2014 at 4:17 PM, Mitar <mitar at tnode.com> wrote:

> Hi!
>
> I wrote to CC people and they are proposing to use CC-BY-SA v.4.0 with a
> waiver of the right of paternity.
>
> http://lists.ibiblio.org/pipermail/cc-community/2014-March/008758.html
>
> This is also done by Oppia project:
>
> https://www.oppia.org/about
>
>
> Mitar
>



On Wed, Apr 23, 2014 at 4:11 PM, Matthew Senate <mattsenate at gmail.com>wrote:

> Providing no license leaves me with the old-school "copyleft, all wrongs
> reversed" sentiment which I like to use sometimes:
> https://gist.github.com/wrought/5890620#file-copyleft_all_wrongs_reversed-html
>
> this of course has dubious legal bearing, so licenses are still an
> interesting set of options.
>
> this is an important question since hackerspaces.org (to my knowledge) is
> the primary shared knowledge base for hackerspaces globally, plus one of
> the (if not *the*) largest implementations of semantic mediawiki, making
> much wiki content stored as structured data. Rad, huh?
>
> So what should be used?
>
> My first inclination is to support a Wikipedia-compatible license (meaning
> for example CC-BY or CC-BY-SA).
>
> My second thought would be to question if hackerspaces.org content should
> be thought of in a similar way folks are thinking about "open data",
> (meaning for example CC-0 or CC-SA)
>
> CC-SA is pretty interesting, it came out in the first CC license draft and
> has been discontinued since, but still remains a usable license
> https://creativecommons.org/licenses/sa/1.0/ This enables very easy
> data-reuse (no attribution necessary), so long as your work has a
> compatible license, but I imagine would make merging data sets difficult as
> other data licenses will likely not be "share-alike" or have the "copyleft"
> mechanism. Basically, it may be the GPL of open data, without the baggage
> of caring who exactly is named. Provenance can then be dealt with using a
> least path.
>
> // Matt
>
>
> On Wed, Apr 23, 2014 at 1:18 PM, Christie Dudley <christie at hackcounsel.com
> > wrote:
>
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>> You'd likely to come across the same in the US. "Engaged in commerce"
>> is not the same as "for-profit".
>>
>> Christie
>>
>> On 4/21/14, 17:57, hellekin wrote:
>> > On 04/21/2014 09:26 PM, Mike Dupont wrote:
>> >> This was a non profit radio station, according to the german
>> >> judge all public use is commercial use.
>> >>
>> > *** Wow! That seems to be abusive. That's the ultimate step into
>> > commoditization of the public space.
>> >
>> > == hk
>> >
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>> - --
>> Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?
>>
>> Class C poetic license in the land of broken memes.
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