[hackerspaces] Failing/failed hackerspaces

[Joseph Connolly]

I think the problem is a collision of their open door policy and their
location.  A space in San Francisco's Mission District with an
open-door policy *WILL* end up with lots of homeless people using it.
I guess I'd always thought their decision was a deliberate one,
although I don't pretend to be very familiar with Noisebridge.

On Fri, Apr 4, 2014 at 1:52 PM, Crawford Comeaux
<crawford.comeaux at gmail.com> wrote:
> What are some ways to keep the doors wide open like they do/did while
> preventing that from happening?
>
>
> On Fri, Apr 4, 2014 at 3:50 PM, matt <matt at nycresistor.com> wrote:
>>
>> well their hackerspace is in a high heroin use neighborhood... then there
>> was occupy aka homeless people pretending to have an agenda so they could
>> sleep somewhere warm.  the result was most of the cities homeless figuring
>> out that noisebridge was a warm place to sleep... and had a kitchen... and
>> plenty of stuff to steal to sell for more heroin.
>>
>> you might say... they became a heroinspace.
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Apr 4, 2014 at 4:43 PM, Crawford Comeaux
>> <crawford.comeaux at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> What led to that being the case?
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Apr 4, 2014 at 3:37 PM, Colin Keigher <general at keyboardcowboy.ca>
>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> It has become a homeless shelter with arduinos so to speak.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 04/04/2014 13:33, Crawford Comeaux wrote:
>>>>
>>>> What's the issue with Noisebridge? What's fundamentally different about
>>>> it now than from what it used to be?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Apr 4, 2014 at 3:24 PM, Rubin Abdi <rubin at starset.net> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> In my humble opinion, a failed hackerspace is one that hasn't been able
>>>>> to provide a space or community to share knowledge between people (or
>>>>> for people to simply learn new things). If a physical space lasted for
>>>>> a
>>>>> week but 1 person was able to learn something new and interesting out
>>>>> of
>>>>> it, that space would be considered a success in my eyes.
>>>>>
>>>>> There is no rule that says a space must continue to always exist.
>>>>>
>>>>> However there is the notion of personal failure in putting time and
>>>>> energy into creating a space, only to see it burn to the ground shortly
>>>>> there after.
>>>>>
>>>>> I would not consider Noisebridge a failure. It had some golden years
>>>>> doing what many of us saw was act like a very robust an anarchistic
>>>>> hacker space. It's however evolved and changed, is something else now.
>>>>> Some would say it's not a hacker space, other say it is. The one thing
>>>>> we can all agree on however is that people still use the space for
>>>>> knowledge share and learning.
>>>>>
>>>>> The majority of founding members since have moved on or away.
>>>>> Noisebridge now is a self-sustaining hacker space organism, a very
>>>>> complicated one, particularly the sort that has predictable cycles if
>>>>> you know what to look for.
>>>>>
>>>>> Noisebridge is not an outlier or an exception to any rules, it simply
>>>>> happened to be the one where a bunch of loud internet people gravitated
>>>>> towards.
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Rubin
>>>>> rubin at starset.net
>>>>>
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