[hackerspaces] Failing/failed hackerspaces

Crawford Comeaux crawford.comeaux at gmail.com
Fri Apr 4 22:52:54 CEST 2014


What are some ways to keep the doors wide open like they do/did while
preventing that from happening?


On Fri, Apr 4, 2014 at 3:50 PM, matt <matt at nycresistor.com> wrote:

> well their hackerspace is in a high heroin use neighborhood... then there
> was occupy aka homeless people pretending to have an agenda so they could
> sleep somewhere warm.  the result was most of the cities homeless figuring
> out that noisebridge was a warm place to sleep... and had a kitchen... and
> plenty of stuff to steal to sell for more heroin.
>
> you might say... they became a heroinspace.
>
>
> On Fri, Apr 4, 2014 at 4:43 PM, Crawford Comeaux <
> crawford.comeaux at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> What led to that being the case?
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Apr 4, 2014 at 3:37 PM, Colin Keigher <general at keyboardcowboy.ca>wrote:
>>
>>>  It has become a homeless shelter with arduinos so to speak.
>>>
>>>
>>> On 04/04/2014 13:33, Crawford Comeaux wrote:
>>>
>>> What's the issue with Noisebridge? What's fundamentally different about
>>> it now than from what it used to be?
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Apr 4, 2014 at 3:24 PM, Rubin Abdi <rubin at starset.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> In my humble opinion, a failed hackerspace is one that hasn't been able
>>>> to provide a space or community to share knowledge between people (or
>>>> for people to simply learn new things). If a physical space lasted for a
>>>> week but 1 person was able to learn something new and interesting out of
>>>> it, that space would be considered a success in my eyes.
>>>>
>>>> There is no rule that says a space must continue to always exist.
>>>>
>>>> However there is the notion of personal failure in putting time and
>>>> energy into creating a space, only to see it burn to the ground shortly
>>>> there after.
>>>>
>>>> I would not consider Noisebridge a failure. It had some golden years
>>>> doing what many of us saw was act like a very robust an anarchistic
>>>> hacker space. It's however evolved and changed, is something else now.
>>>> Some would say it's not a hacker space, other say it is. The one thing
>>>> we can all agree on however is that people still use the space for
>>>> knowledge share and learning.
>>>>
>>>> The majority of founding members since have moved on or away.
>>>> Noisebridge now is a self-sustaining hacker space organism, a very
>>>> complicated one, particularly the sort that has predictable cycles if
>>>> you know what to look for.
>>>>
>>>> Noisebridge is not an outlier or an exception to any rules, it simply
>>>> happened to be the one where a bunch of loud internet people gravitated
>>>> towards.
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Rubin
>>>> rubin at starset.net
>>>>
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