[hackerspaces] Rent?

[David Francos]

2013/2/14 Jaromil <jaromil at dyne.org>

> On Wed, 13 Feb 2013, Derek Hubbard wrote:
>
> >    paying $450/mo for 5000sqft of warehouse space with a small kitchen
> >    and two bathrooms. The space is, for now, rather raw. We plan on
> >    improving
>
> this sounds awesome. with so much space you can at least organize public
> events and have enough room to fundraise with them too.
>
> >    Our other expenses bring costs up to an estimated $700/mo.
>

Wow, wich kind of expenses go up to 700$/mo?


> so, its about the same as Asbesto reports.
>
> the problem we have in Sicily is that a warehouse space  like your would
> cost much more than we pay already and its condition + location would be
> far from optimal.  ATM the few members with financial possibilities on
> our side are paying 50EUR a month to support the apartment - and for
> south Italians to have a job means to migrate mostly, so then you end up
> paying for something you don't even access phisically, maybe just 2
> times a year. if it keeps on like that, we are doomed on the long term.
>

Seen your hardware, it'll be a nice museum if you get to do it.
In spain warehouse spaces not rented by gov are also too expensive.
And the ones rented by gov are only for enterprises... ¬¬

>
> The cost of renting spaces is such a powerful variable: it directly
> controls our capacity, while  institutions seem to be deaf to our
> requests of facilitation. also housing prices in peripheral zones are
> kept up "artificially" (not on the basis of demand and offer) and so
> many spaces are left empty, at least that's what is happening in most
> places
>

Yeah, that shit happens here too.

Some spanish hackerspaces are in occupied buildings because of that, but we
refused to do that sometime ago.
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