[hackerspaces] I am no longer using google mail, you can be one too!

Ben Brown ben at generik.ca
Thu Aug 22 04:56:09 CEST 2013

Oh shit, I've never locked my hose up. Should I be doing this?

That first link is laughable. They're outraged that Google admitted most 
email is very easy to peek into while it's in transit, and even quotes 
their website's own 'Privacy Project director' for a statement. More 
troubling is whoever this 'Privacy Project Director' is apparently 
doesn't know how (unencrypted) email works.

Google says there's no expectation of privacy when 3rd parties are 
involved. Is this shocking?

Google is an advertising business, nothing more. That's a good reason 
enough not to use their services. Despite that, I use Google's services. 
I don't have an expectation of privacy with them, that's not how their 
business model works. If you're going to get offended over every 
expectation of privacy issue surrounding public websites, you may as 
well log off and go ride a bike. Your heart will thank you for the 
reduced stress.

If you're just trolling.. well spot on


On 8/21/2013 10:05 PM, FarMcKon wrote:
> Hey google-using folks (everyone else can skip this);
> If you are on this list, and have been reading the news at all, I'd like
> to lobby you to move your email off of google now.  Their 'No
> Expectation of privacy'* decision and PRISM** participation really runs
> counter to the DIY and user-empowering ethos of hackerspaces.   If you
> want to setup a mail server, or run into trouble moving email somewhere
> else, feel free to reply to this thread.  I'm sure we can help find
> technical expertise to help get your email in more trustworthy hands.
> If you are planning to leave your mail on google, I suggest you also
> mail a copy of your hose keys to the local police station, and invite
> them to search your house anytime.  It will just make the Police State's
> life much easier to do sneak-n-peaks.
> Changing lists.hackerspcaes.org email subscription:
> 1) Log into http://lists.hackerspaces.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
> 2) Go to 'Subscribrs' section. Enter usename and password a click the
> button 'Subscribers List'
> 3) find your email in the list. Click on it.
> 4) Replace your old email address with your new one
> 5) Continue reading discuss at lists.hackerspaces.org at your new mailbox.
> If anything goes wrong, I run a email support line at
> 'mdjoyce at gmail.com'. Please use the keyword 'Potatoes' in the subject
> line so I know you are serious. (that is a joke (but seriously, email
> matt digital potatoes)).
> Regards,  hack on,
> - Far McKon
> Footnotes:
> *
> http://www.consumerwatchdog.org/newsrelease/google-tells-court-you-cannot-expect-privacy-when-sending-messages-gmail-people-who-care
> **
> http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2337863/PRISM-Google-Facebook-DID-allow-NSA-access-data-talks-set-spying-rooms-despite-denials-Zuckerberg-Page-controversial-project.html
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