[hackerspaces] Idea: things.hackerspaces.org now that Thingiverse is not ok anymore
mathartspd at gmail.com
Wed Sep 26 22:10:12 CEST 2012
Well, this may not be entirely on-topic, but here are my impressions...
Did I hear "Venture Capital"?
<flame> That means that MakerBot is on the hook to exercise Fiscal
Which means making good on a prediction of ridiculous, unsustainable
growth, translating to return-on-investment
to the V-C.</flame>
But never mind that.
We are talking about 3D Printing, which is a Radically new concept.
(I've been saying this since 1990, but it takes
people a *long* time to catch on.)
Here, in principle, is the difference between Open-Source Software and
Moore's Law is what drives them toward Convergence -- But, they are
not there yet, because:
1) 3D Printers cannot really build themselves completely yet. They
still require precision
machined metal parts which extruders (sinterers, etc.) can't yet manage.
2) Moore's Law is really about Manufacturing Technology -- The
evolution of the Silicon Foundry (Hard Drive, ...)
which evolves toward ever faster, smaller, denser, ... exponentially.
3) A Silicon Foundry cannot build a copy of itself (yet) -- *AND* a
computer. When it *can* do so, then it will evolve
organically in a manner closer to software than hardware.
4) Post-Industrial manufacturing -- When you build a million of
*anything* the cost per unit drops to zero.
The only way to sustain anything in a Capitalist model, which has zero
cost is by artificially manipulating the Market. Otherwise it would
5) All of the cost required to manufacture anything is the design,
engineering and up-front tooling required to make Unit #1.
Shapeways/Thingiverse may be a model for reducing this cost.
As I see it, the only way to sustain Open-Source Software is by
marketing yourself as an expert on it --
Having people pay you to maintain it, train others on it and by
publishing the User's Manual.
We have not figured out Post-Industrial Manufacturing, which might be
the same as Open-Source Hardware. The old-school Owning Class has
the Manufacturing Industry to countries where Slave Labor is still
legal. Capitalism is still stuck at pre-1865 by United States
It comes down to "How do you feed yourself and pay the rent while you
are designing open-source hardware products?"
To me, this is the same question as "How do you feed yourself and pay
the rent as an artist?" (Writer, blogger, ... Any independent creative
activity -- Which is really the only one worth doing.)
At the 2012 SME RAPID Conference, Terry Wohlers said that Additive
Manufacturing (3D Printing) is a $1.3Billion industry and will double
within 4 years.
Consumer-grade 3D printers are a really tiny fraction of the market he
is talking about -- *BUT* they are majorly contributing to the
awareness of 3D printing/Additive Manufacturing.
My question is -- How will this $1.3 -> $2.6Billion industry float *ALL* boats?
On Wed, Sep 26, 2012 at 1:57 PM, Matt Joyce <matt at nycresistor.com> wrote:
> Just a quick update on thingiverse.
> Curious if anyone has any concerns not addressed in there.
> Discuss mailing list
> Discuss at lists.hackerspaces.org
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